All Ancient Rome models from 3DWarehouse together

Z-Akh69

Hello,

I'm French and i studiying roman architecture since several months.
First, i congratulate you for your wonderful models !

I am fascinated by old architecture and I have already made a model of architectural complex of Pharaoh Sahure to Abusir. I also started to model Persepolis since winter 2008 but never finish.

Here are some pictures of my work :

Your models are very interesting but do not have the right proportions. I have studied many texts and also Vitruvius. His formulas do not work for all but we can get some interesting values such as intercolumniation or height of columns depending on the type of building.

I set some rules for obtain a building with harmonious proportions. This one tries with the Temple of Vespasian :

You must first determine the proportions of columns and entablature.
The entablature of Vitruvius is not appropriate for a Roman temple. However, you can follow his instructions for the Corinthian column.

For the entablature, I advise you to refer to the Corinthian order of Vignola.
I do not find attractive method for determining the angle of the pediment or values stylobate and stairs.

Next, you must consider the values between the columns proposed by Vitruvius and height of columns that refers to each of them.

Gaieus

Hi Z-Akh and welcome with these nice models!

As for Vitruvius, I find that his proportions are often just an idealised "average" of what should be built but individual buildings (especially in the provinces) are only more or less following those "ideas" rather tan strictly following them as true canons (and then there is also the time span of several hundred years during which many things changed).

Nevertheless, theoretically speaking, SketchUp is indeed an ideal tool to study these canons and see how they would work in practice.

ELYSIUM

I agree with Gaieus.

Forget about Vitruvius!! lolol the ten books are greatly overrated.

Its a great source for understanding ideal roman architecture, but it has a lot of trouble when applied to real life and real buildings
The books are really poorly written, Greek mixed with Latin, invented words, missing parts, no mention of engaged columns and orders..... some buildings described are impossible to build because he sets contradictory rules and proportions, the list of mistakes goes on and on...,
And like Gaieus pointed out the books were written in the start of Augustus reign, the empire lasted for 400 years after that!

Its really hard to find a roman building that fits in Vitruvius understanding of rules and proportions. Like for example the Panteon! does it fit Vitruvius? no way...
The Ten Books are just a set of principles for ideal architecture, don´t try and fit everything in it.

Post Scriptum: Great images, can you show us more???

Z-Akh69

I agree with you. Vitruvius should be used to understand some basic principles.

For example, for values of intercolumniation: Vitruvius gives us values such as 1.5 d (diameter) for Pycnostyle or 2 d for Systyle.

The architect is free to choose the value which is more harmonious. It can also make an average. This applies to the "square house" of the city of Nimes in France : The values of intercolumniation is an average between Pycnostyle and Systyle.

For column, I am guided by Vitruvius because Vignola's corinthian column seems disproportionate.
The capital is too high and the base too narrow. The height proposed by Vignola is also too high. (Vitruvius also said that for Pycnostyle the height of the column should be 10 d, it is also impossible).

I'll post more images later.

Z-Akh69

I tried to render L.VII.C's model with Twilight render.

Even without good proportions, is already beautiful!

L.VII.C

Hi Z-Akh69

Your models are great . It would be interesting to examine them in 3D mode.
Thank you very much for rendering my forum. So it looks better than it is really

Aerilius

great render!
(@L.VII.C:) The light blots on the base of the column and below the statue on the left could be caused by either totally white (rgb=255,255,255) or untextured faces. Also make sure that the faces show the frontface (in monochrome face style, the blueish color means the backface and white means frontface). I also struggled with this in one of my monastery renders but I'm sure it can be solved .

I keep my eyes open, because the last thing we need are people. Plebeians and patricians, Cicero and senators... Maybe there are some good movies in tv these days, where I can catch some people...

L.VII.C

Aerilius

@unknownuser said:

great render!
(@L.VII.C:) The light blots on the base of the column and below the statue on the left could be caused by either totally white (rgb=255,255,255) or untextured faces. Also make sure that the faces show the frontface (in monochrome face style, the blueish color means the backface and white means frontface). I also struggled with this in one of my monastery renders but I'm sure it can be solved .

I keep my eyes open, because the last thing we need are people. Plebeians and patricians, Cicero and senators... Maybe there are some good movies in tv these days, where I can catch some people...

About the right locations of white faces in monochrome mode, earlier to me has specified pichuneke. Since then I try to avoid mistakes. But unfortunately, in my models a lot of blue faces In this respect completely correctly made only 4 models: tabularium, mausoleums of Augustus and Hadrian and Severus arch. While working on the model of Forum Romanum, I turned the vast majority of blue faces, but surely they still have

Z-Akh69

Hi everyone,

I'm rendering with the demo of Twilight:

http://www.twilightrender.com/

Today I worked on the proportions of the Corinthian columns but I am not satisfied with the result.
I finally chose Vignola base while keeping the height prescribed by Vitruvius for the capital.
I removed the bulge and I try to get the right height for the entire column.

I already posted my work here:

Object not found!

(www.escargot-archi.eu)

Danik

Hi to all!
I've finished my new model - baths of Caracalla.
The general view:

The great hall:

Frigidarium:

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Tepidarium:
[url=http://www.picatom.com/17/1-3860.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/1-3860-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/2-2514.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/2-2514-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/3-1486.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/3-1486-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/4-1027.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/4-1027-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4]

Caldarium
[url=http://www.picatom.com/17/1-3861.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/1-3861-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/2-2515.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/2-2515-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/3-1487.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/3-1487-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4] [url=http://www.picatom.com/17/4-1028.html:13o7zaq4][img:13o7zaq4]http://www.picatom.com/17/4-1028-th.JPG[/img:13o7zaq4][/url:13o7zaq4]

Other interiors were also made and textured

Download link: [url:13o7zaq4]http://www.filefront.com/15236645/BATHS OF CARACALLA.skp[/url:13o7zaq4]

Gaieus

Hi Danila,

Downloading...
From the images, it seems to be an amazing model.

Aerilius

fantastic!!!
I always wonder from where you get info about the interior design...

By the way (don't take it amiss! it is already more than perfect), if you want to avoid repetition, you can randomly rotate the column components around 90° or flip them.

Z-Akh69

Danik

Some screens of other interiors:

Also the model is presented in 3D Warehouse
[url:2ygf9ust]http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=4aeaf6da14d9c5a1288ed9bca759b0ad[/url:2ygf9ust]

pichuneke

¡¡¡Dios mio!!!

Danik

Some renders of the baths made in Kerkythea:

Z-Akh69

Marvelous !

sketchup_fan

Beautiful, the only thing that is missing is the parking lot for the horses and the carriages.

Danik

I have made some panoramas of my baths of Caracalla in Kerkythea in the same manner as Aerilius has made the panorama of my basilica of Maxentius.

So, the palestra:
[flash=500,400:gryi075y]http://www.you3dview.com/viewer/viewer.swf?xml=http://www.you3dview.com/flvideo/295/viewer.xml[/flash:gryi075y]

The big apse:
[flash=500,400:gryi075y]http://www.you3dview.com/viewer/viewer.swf?xml=http://www.you3dview.com/flvideo/296/viewer.xml[/flash:gryi075y]

The frigidarium:
[flash=500,400:gryi075y]http://www.you3dview.com/viewer/viewer.swf?xml=http://www.you3dview.com/flvideo/302/viewer.xml[/flash:gryi075y]

The main hall:
[flash=500,400:gryi075y]http://www.you3dview.com/viewer/viewer.swf?xml=http://www.you3dview.com/flvideo/301/viewer.xml[/flash:gryi075y]

Aerilius

Ha! Great! I believe I'm in the real baths of Caracalla.

Try a bit to use more material settings: in the material editor, you can give ca. 40% specularity to the columns and the marble. (I also once used 10% reflection, but I'd rather not do that again because it needs much time to calculate).
In addition, the marble textures could be a bit larger and less repeating (If I find something, I'll post it)