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    • T Offline
      tomasz
      last edited by

      @thomthom said:

      MyUniquePlug1 should not interfere with MyUniquePlug2 in any way. Got some specific examples of conflict?

      I don't have an example of a specific conflict. I have enclosed the plugin within a module, which name is unique enough and I am getting responses from users that the plugin won't start unless (almost) whole plugin folder is empty. Personally I don't have problem on my own computers, so I am confused and looking for a clue and a solution.

      Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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        Jim
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        Emptying the Plugins folder is not the first thing to try. Have them open the Ruby Console window, and load the plugin manually to see what errors are being produced.

        Hi

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          tomasz
          last edited by

          @jim said:

          Emptying the Plugins folder is not the first thing to try. Have them open the Ruby Console window, and load the plugin manually to see what errors are being produced.

          It is ... not funny.
          Sketchup.load 'Plugin.rbs'
          returns 0 (!=true or false).
          There is no explanation in the API for such a case.

          Tomasz

          Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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            daiku
            last edited by

            When you create an object from the class, you have to specify which module it should come from. This code works fine for me:

            
            module Mod1
            	class Test
            		def id
            			puts "Mod1 Test"
            		end	
            	end
            end
            
            module Mod2
            	class Test
            		def id
            			puts "Mod2 Test"
            		end
            	end
            end
            
            t1 = Mod1;;Test.new
            t2 = Mod2;;Test.new
            
            t1.id
            t2.id
            
            

            Result:

            
            Mod1 Test
            Mod2 Test
            
            

            Note that I create two objects (t1 and t2), one of each class. I get away with the classes having the same name because they live in different modules. CB.

            Clark Bremer
            http://www.northernlightstimberframing.com

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              tomasz
              last edited by

              I see, so doing:
              t3 = Test.new
              Will get unexpected results!

              Thank you!

              Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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                thomthom
                last edited by

                @unknownuser said:

                I see, so doing:
                t3 = Test.new
                Will get unexpected results!

                Thank you!

                Depends in what cope you are in.

                
                module Mod1
                   class Test
                      def id
                         puts "Mod1 Test"
                      end   
                   end
                   t1 = Test.new # Should refer to Mod1;;Test
                end
                
                module Mod2
                   class Test
                      def id
                         puts "Mod2 Test"
                      end
                   end
                   t2 = Test.new # Should refer to Mod2;;Test
                   t4 = Mod1;;Test.new
                end
                
                t3 = Test.new # I don't know if this will even work
                
                

                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  tomasz
                  last edited by

                  @unknownuser said:

                  Sketchup.load 'Plugin.rbs'
                  returns 0 (!=true or false).
                  There is no explanation in the API for such a case.

                  Is there someone from Google who can tell me what 0 means in this case?
                  It happens on Vista64 SU 7.1.

                  Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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                  • Chris FullmerC Offline
                    Chris Fullmer
                    last edited by

                    What is Plugin.rbs ?

                    Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                    All my Plugins I've written

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                      tomasz
                      last edited by

                      @chris fullmer said:

                      What is Plugin.rbs ?

                      I have used SDK Scrambler on Plugin.rb file >> Plugin.rbs.
                      It is 'a' plugin name. Not relevant in this case.

                      Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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                      • Chris FullmerC Offline
                        Chris Fullmer
                        last edited by

                        Once you scramble a file, there are problems with it loading. I think you have to hard code the path into the file.

                        I'm not sure if you use the FILE constant in your script, but I tihnk that might not work in a scrambled script. I'm sure others here know more about this. But I do know that scrambled scripts are a little trickier to load somehow....Perhaps that is why it seems to not be loading?

                        Chris

                        Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                        All my Plugins I've written

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
                          last edited by

                          @unknownuser said:

                          @unknownuser said:

                          Sketchup.load 'Plugin.rbs'
                          returns 0 (!=true or false).
                          There is no explanation in the API for such a case.

                          Is there someone from Google who can tell me what 0 means in this case?
                          It happens on Vista64 SU 7.1.

                          Does the plugin load? Might be the manual that's incorrect, and it returns 1 on success and on failure?

                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            Jim
                            last edited by

                            Sketchup.load acts like Sketchup.require which acts like require - which means it checks the $" special global variable before loading.

                            0 could mean it has already been loaded. Check the $" variable in the Ruby Console window to see if the file is already on the list.

                            Hi

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                              tomasz
                              last edited by

                              @chris fullmer said:

                              I'm not sure if you use the FILE constant in your script, but I tihnk that might not work in a scrambled script. I'm sure others here know more about this. But I do know that scrambled scripts are a little trickier to load somehow....Perhaps that is why it seems to not be loading?

                              I just realized same thing. I do use FILE. I will hard code it. I am not sure if it will be unless file_loaded?('Plugin.rb') or unless file_loaded?('Plugin.rbs'). Will check it.

                              @thomthom said:

                              Does the plugin load? Might be the manual that's incorrect, and it returns 1 on success and on failure?

                              The plugin loads automatically on my machine (Vista32Home). When I Sketchup.load 'Plugin.rbs' it returns 0 .. which may mean that the plugin has been already loaded.
                              The thing is that an user on Vista64 gets olso 0, but there is no plugin whatsoever in his Plugins menu.

                              I have another tester with Vista64 and it works fine for him, so there must be some interaction with a different plugin I believe.

                              Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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                                Jim
                                last edited by

                                @unknownuser said:

                                I am not sure if it will be unless file_loaded?('Plugin.rb') or unless file_loaded?('Plugin.rbs'). Will check it.

                                Not important - can be any string. It just adds the string to a global variable. It is something invented for Sketchup for the sole purpose of guarding the menus from adding multiple entries.

                                Yeah - I think I'll call them "menu guards".

                                Hi

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                                • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                  Chris Fullmer
                                  last edited by

                                  I can confirm. Sketchup.load returns 0 (fixnum class) if it loaded and false (falseclass) if it did not load.

                                  Odd, that should go in as a bug fix, and an API fix?

                                  Chris

                                  Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                  All my Plugins I've written

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                                    tomasz
                                    last edited by

                                    @jim said:

                                    Not important - can be any string...
                                    Yeah - I think I'll call them "menu guards".

                                    So FILE is not the issue. I think I have a problem with a different plugin, that stops mine to load into Plugins.
                                    Thanks for explanation.

                                    Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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                                    • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                      Chris Fullmer
                                      last edited by

                                      You say its a Vista user with problems? Nearly all the Vista problems I get are related to the "Compatibility Files" folder. Sometimes when a user downloads a file directly to the plugins folder, it will put it into a safe compatilibity folder, and it does not appear in the plugins folder.

                                      Have the user check their compatibility folder, delete any old versions of your plugin, reinstall, and try again. That might help.

                                      Chris

                                      Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                      All my Plugins I've written

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                                        tomasz
                                        last edited by

                                        I have discovered something important for those who use rbs.
                                        If you check if your plugin has already been loaded with:
                                        file_loaded?(File.basename(__FILE__))
                                        from inside of a rbs file - the FILE value == '(eval)' !
                                        If there are two rbs plugins which use the same method, the first will block the second.
                                        That is why my rbs has been loaded, but didn't create a menu in Plugins.

                                        Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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                                        • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                          Dan Rathbun
                                          last edited by

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          If you check if your plugin has already been loaded with:
                                          file_loaded?(File.basename(__FILE__))
                                          from inside of a rbs file - the FILE value == '(eval)' !

                                          Sounds like File.basename(FILE) is getting set to part of an eval error string.
                                          I wonder if eval error strings are put to the $! message global?

                                          I'm not here much anymore.

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                                            tbd
                                            last edited by

                                            FILE when ruby is scrambled is useless as it gets evaled, so you cannot use it. had the same problem when developing/using Sketchup Bridge.

                                            workaround: add the path to the global search path for loading scripts $:

                                            SketchUp Ruby Consultant | Podium 1.x developer
                                            http://plugins.ro

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