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    • MarianM Offline
      Marian
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      If failures like this happpen so frequently on complex machines i wonder how many problems will rise when we'll make the first real starship...guess 10 years will stay on Earth and another ten in orbit.

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      • L Offline
        linea
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        @unknownuser said:

        the CERN institute where the LHC is being built invented the World Wide Web, as a fastest method for sharing information with its scientists from around the world, working on LHC components. You are talking here thanks to the LHC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        I dare anyone to say that the web is useless.

        For another example breast cancer sensors came directly from particle collision research in the CERN
        How anyone can anyone think that nothing good will come of quantum physics research?!

        Sorry to split hairs but Cern did not "invent" the world wide web. Many years ago I researched this subject for part of my university dissertation (addmittedly not the best essay) but I'm sure that Arpanet developed by the U.S. Department of Defense was the original form of the world wide web, or at least the first large scale internet medium that actually worked. Cern might have developed it but they didn't invent it.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET
        http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~acc/docs/arpa.html
        http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa091598.htm
        http://www.livinginternet.com/i/ii_arpanet.htm

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        • Alan FraserA Online
          Alan Fraser
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          Jon, ARPANET invented the Internet for the US Defense Department. That is the packet switching via addresses contained in those packets of data to link computers together.
          This is different from the WWW, which is a hypertext protocol, accessed via a web browser, that sits on top of the Internet. That was invented at CERN to allow widely separated scientists to communicate effectively.
          The Internet and the Web are not interchangeable terms.

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          • L Offline
            linea
            last edited by

            Ok Alan, I stand corrected.

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            • J Offline
              john.warburton
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              The Large Hadron Collider has been fixed and is about to be restarted:

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              BBC News - Beam circles 'Big Bang' machine

              Engineers have sent proton particles all the way round the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) machine for the first time in more than a year.

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              (news.bbc.co.uk)

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              • Dave RD Offline
                Dave R
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                What about the bread? 😄

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                • J Offline
                  john.warburton
                  last edited by

                  @dave r said:

                  What about the bread? 😄

                  Give me a dollar for every time someone mentions that ....

                  Life's a reach, and then you gybe.

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                  • Jean LemireJ Offline
                    Jean Lemire
                    last edited by

                    Hi folks.

                    These peoples may have read the book mentionned here:

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_(novel

                    I read it and found it very good but, this is science fiction.

                    I know that sometimes fiction becomes reality and even surpasses it but this time I doubt it.

                    Just ideas.

                    Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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                    • ely862meE Offline
                      ely862me
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                      @unknownuser said:

                      Oooooh oooohh ooohh!! Look what I found, webcam footage!

                      🤣

                      Tasty thread!!!
                      Don t worry guys!Nothing bad can happen ! Remember first time wheel was probably square ,then rounded but still uncomfortable, then we discovered the tire and we re still polishing it.
                      Every invention takes time until the effects can reach maximum potential.Who knows what can be discovered from here,maybe something totally different from what they expected .
                      Till then leave in peace because at least this is up to you 😉 !!

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                      • charly2008C Offline
                        charly2008
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                        Help, i have a black hole in Sketchup


                        Black hole.jpg

                        He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                        • R Offline
                          remus
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                          No need to worry, thats just a white hole 😄

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                          • charly2008C Offline
                            charly2008
                            last edited by

                            This is not a white hole! That was the light of my monitor that just disappears.

                            He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                            • MALAISEM Offline
                              MALAISE
                              last edited by

                              Hole white ? All right 😆

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                              • J Offline
                                JuanV.Soler
                                last edited by

                                Men are tough, we are. I am.
                                Maybe it must be the way we undoubtlly learn.
                                😞 😢 😒
                                We are now , again, under the incógnita.

                                But the people HAVE the power, and for me it is delightfull to sense it and somehow, sometimes, remember the 2012 that is arriving under unknown and unpredictable way, as far as I can expect and desire.
                                so dont despair and be welcomed ¡
                                😄
                                ones looses and others gain

                                lets be confident

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                                • J Offline
                                  john.warburton
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                                  It's broken again....!

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                                  BBC News - LHC to shut down for a year to address design faults

                                  The Large Hadron Collider must be shut down for a year starting in late 2011 to address design flaws, the BBC has learned.

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                                  (news.bbc.co.uk)

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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
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                                    "Murphy rule" again 💚

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                                    • david_hD Offline
                                      david_h
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                                      Well of course it's gonna break. .. they keep colliding Stuff. . .

                                      Colliding. .. collision . . .. HELLOOOO! 💚

                                      If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                                      • MarianM Offline
                                        Marian
                                        last edited by

                                        It's not exactly broken, the article says that it will be shut down at the end of 2011 for 2 years to adress some design faults and till then it will run at half capacity.

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                                        • W Offline
                                          watkins
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                                          Dear Chaps,

                                          It is not really a design fault; more a design improvement, with 'instrument' and personnel safety in mind. Why take the risk of a major incident if it can be designed out. Remember, nothing like this has been done before. It is an experiment, and the first (and probably) the last of its kind. The first video shows the controlled quench of a small superconducting magnet,

                                          the second an uncontrolled rise in pressure (magnets are often shipped cold),

                                          Collimators around the LHC intercept stray particles and stop beam energy from being dumped into the superconducting coils which would cause them to heat and possibly quench uncontrollably. That is why the LHC is being restricted to low particle velocities until the improvements are implemented. Here a collimator is shown being installed,

                                          The planned modifications are to ensure that if the magnets do quench, which is likely to happen if control of the beam is lost, they quench safely.

                                          Regards,
                                          Bob

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
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                                            Did Toyota do some of the components ?
                                            🤣

                                            TIG

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