The computer that's number one in consumer satisfaction

Mike Lucey · 3 Nov 2009, 17:30

Point taken.

pav_3j · 3 Nov 2009, 18:27

i run both, and each has their issues.

IMO though macs are for posers, that was the only reason i got one, i do still use it for the odd thing, but i will always end up going back to my pc.

a guy at uni kept banging on about his mac, it does this, it does that blah blah blah.
he asked me what i have, and i told him about my current rig, and he kept going and slagging of my computer saying macs were the best etc.

then i asked him how much his cost, and told him what i got for my money.

never seen someone shut up so quickly.

another point, if microsoft made ads like these, i bet you a pound they'd be vilified, that's probably the only thing stopping them.

rude apple, just rude!

pav

dale · 3 Nov 2009, 18:40

I just like the tinkly music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv__357JYXU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id_kGL3M5Cg&NR=1

david_h · 3 Nov 2009, 18:56

I don't know that much about Macs. .. I used an original macintosh in 1984. . .after that .. .nada.

I do like the "trust me" ad for mac.
[flash=853,505:2mz05qeh]http://www.youtube.com/v/1ZOop-mnKEk[/flash:2mz05qeh]

by the way . .this is my first embedded video. I didn't know how to do it before. The light shines down . . .!

Looks like I still did it wrong. It's too big.

solo · 3 Nov 2009, 19:01

Anyone notice that the PC guy's fashion was according to the era regardless how cheesy it was yet the Mac guy hardly changed.

These are desperate Mac days.

Ecuadorian · 3 Nov 2009, 19:25

@solo said:

according to the era regardless how cheesy it was

This reminded me of something...

tim · 4 Nov 2009, 01:38

@solo said:

These are desperate Mac days.

Sure - 'beleagured Apple Computer' and so on. They really are having it tough in these trying economic times. sales are drastically down, not making any money, laying off everybody.... oh, wait, no. Dang.

If you don't like Macs, don't use them. I can't stand Windows - so guess what? I don't use it anymore! Wow, we can all be happy. You can feel smug about only paying $X for your box and I can feel smug about being less annoyed by my computer. Everyone wins!

And while you're claiming that you Dell/HP/whatever is so much cheaper than an Apple, somebody else will be sneering at you for having wasted money on a pre-built machine when everyone knows you can build your own monster machine sooooo much cheaper by getting a case from here (just take care putting your hands anywhere inside it, sharp edges dontcha know?) and a motherboard from there and a CPU from this guy down the bar and a disk from Fred who seems to get them off the back of delivery trucks and download some OS from a radK00l site. And somebody else will be sneering at them for being such a dweeb for wanting a computer in the first case because pencil and paper is the only honest way to draw and dammit you should bake your own charcoal anyway and make paper from the rest of the tree you felled your own self - using an axe you made from a bit of flint and some sinew taken off the limb you had to amputate last week after a hunting accident.

And as it happens I have built my own computers before now. I built the motherboard, helped design the cpu, helped write the OS, made a case. Buying a Mac is a lot less painful.

solo · 4 Nov 2009, 01:49

Phew Jim, that was a mouthful....but you don't get it still

You are comparing Apples to Dells, we are talking about software not hardware.
We are talking about those negative adverts that Apple feels best sells their product.

You mention Lot's about hardware, but we are talking about software, operating systems, specifically Snow Leopard and Windows 7, I do not see the Mac ads mentioning Dell, Toshiba, Sony, Acer, etc, no, they are attacking Microsoft windows.

jeff hammond · 4 Nov 2009, 01:51

are the ads really that offensive?
stupid? maybe but...

[edit] fwiw, that japanese version is great
i wish they'd air those ones in the u.s.

jeff hammond · 4 Nov 2009, 01:55

haha

[flash=640,505:23i6o4bx]http://www.youtube.com/v/bm7JH1FT_yM&hl=en&fs=1&[/flash:23i6o4bx]

Ecuadorian · 4 Nov 2009, 02:10

Wow, Tim. I didn't know you worked in electronics in the past. Care to share more details?

Mike Lucey · 4 Nov 2009, 02:30

Okay, how about, 'Macs are for Dummies' ie. people that don't like or are not able to tweak and configure their computers also are a little tight fisted when it comes to paying for Service Contracts but don't mind paying extra for 'bling'

solo · 4 Nov 2009, 03:02

Who has a service contract? I've never had one, never needed one either.

xrok1 · 4 Nov 2009, 03:22

well for me (and i think a lot of others) part of the joy of owning a pc is to see what you can get out of it. anyone can get a mac (or brand name pc) off the shelf and use it. so what! its like buying a hot rod and not tuning it? why? integrated graphics, integrated sound, phewey. give me upgrades or give me death.

pbacot · 4 Nov 2009, 07:26

Xrok,

I think your rod analogy is appropriate and I assume half-serious. I have a Mac, and I didn't buy it in order to fix it. I don't want to be a computer expert. And I am not saying Macs are foolproof either. I also have it because it runs the software I use the most, mostly not available on PC.

These Mac Ads have been around a long time, not just when a new Windows product comes out. They are not getting desperate. Mac has always been desperate in the sense that they are not even close to Windows in market share. I do enjoy using Macs, but the Ads are over the top. I think the obnoxious nature is part of their humor.

Mac owners who make a big deal about it ARE posers. And Windows users who consider them posers are just jealous. Either way. It's like the saying. "Hey iPhone owners: you only bought an iPhone, you didn't invent it."

Peter

notareal · 4 Nov 2009, 09:31

Jeff, that was great.

dacad · 4 Nov 2009, 10:06

This is a war so old...and there's so much more, on each side, on youtube.
In my humble opinion macs have two things that make them better for people in design business, better use of ram memory and displays with better brightnesse/contrast. The bad thing: you can put it however you want it but in the end, it's not worth all the money they ask for it, especcially after win7.
I bough a pc this month for around 900 (i7 920 overclocked to 3.8gh and 6Gg triple chanel at 1600) and there's no way in hell i could buy a mac that could come close, even without the OC. And with the rest of the money i had left over i could put extra 6Gg of ram and buy a pantone colour calibrator for my display, completing putting aside 2 great beneficts of using macs, and turning a better pc even better comparing to the mac...

But this war will never end, especcially after one of the apple directors said that trying to buy an eqqual pc to mac would allways be more expensive. Why?because for him, we would need to buy a lot of software to be at par with the mac, one of them beeing PHOTOSHOP...lololol, yes because when we buy a mac, who needs photoshop, even elements version...lolol.

I even have friends that had a mac but had to run windows on it when they wanted to work...what sense does this make?
Anyway, i try to pass aside this, because i think everyone should always use what better suits them, beeing windows or mac, but that's something fanboys of each side won't ever understand.
For me, it's the better performance i can get for my money.

kwistenbiebel · 4 Nov 2009, 10:41

I don't like Apple.
Overhyped, toy looking etc...

But fact is that my desktop is a MacPro. At the time (a year ago) the best value for money for a double Xeon rig (8 cores).
Very solid built, still very fast and a joy to work on.

Never ever used MacosX on it though, always Windows through Bootcamp.
I am pretty sure my next desktop will be a MacPro again. The Nehalem Xeons have my interest, but I think I'll wait for the next gen next year....

I don't care about the version of Windows. Every version seems the same to me.As long as things are compatible, I'm fine with it.

dacad · 4 Nov 2009, 11:08

8 core xeon?16 threads? damn, that must be a monster render machine kwist
And the cheap xeons you found were on a macpro?that's strange...here that would be impossible. But hey i'm in a country (Portugal) where the new iphone 32Gg costs 889,90 euros (1 314.04 USD)!! for an overpriced and obsolete phone?!?!that's crazy...

kwistenbiebel · 4 Nov 2009, 11:22

@unknownuser said:

8 core xeon?16 threads? damn, that must be a monster render machine kwist
And the cheap xeons you found were on a macpro?that's strange...here that would be impossible. But hey i'm in a country (Portugal) where the new iphone 32Gg costs 889,90 euros (1 314.04 USD)!! for an overpriced and obsolete phone?!?!that's crazy...

No, two quadcore Xeons which make a 8 core together.
And for me, yes that was the best value for money.
I would assemble a normal PC myself , but when it comes to a workstation,the components are less likely to be compatible, so I decided to go for a 'out of the box' solution.
When you compare Apple to HP or even Dell workstations, it was surprisingly the good thing to do.