Roman basilica - WIP

MALAISE · 17 Oct 2009, 15:54

Hi Gaius, great work you're doing !

Could you explain how you extract a "plan" of the first picture leading you to the drawing of building. Do you use PhotoMatch ?
Please let's see other W.I.P

MALAISE

Gaieus · 18 Oct 2009, 10:12

I'd love to use PhotoMatch (although not for constructing but for later "matching" the perspective 3D model with the photo) however, as you can see there, there are no vertical edges of the building as it is just the ruins - say the "plan".

So that's it basically; as meticulously mmeasuring everything on site and drawing the remains (to scale) by hand is part of the documentation process of an archaeological excavation, I have the plan exactly measured and drawn already, when I start with such a project.

Alan Fraser · 22 Oct 2009, 00:44

I thought you might like a headsup on this, Gai. http://www.procedural.com/cityengine/import-export/export-samples.html
There are links to some exported City Engine buildings. They are pretty high-poly, but can be got into SketchUp. They contain some fairly useful textures too...variations of typical Roman brick and some very decent roof tiles.

Gaieus · 23 Oct 2009, 10:09

Thanks Aalan, already trying to import. Unfortunately the images are generally rather low res but will see what I can use.

pichuneke · 23 Oct 2009, 10:16

With my free version of sketchup I can't import the roman houses with textures.

Collada gives me problems with sketchup. I have problems too when importing/exporting to Blender.

Alan Fraser · 23 Oct 2009, 10:41

Even the Pro version crashes when trying to import the Collada 2009 file. I had to use the second, triangulated version. It still took several minutes to import.

pichuneke · 23 Oct 2009, 10:48

By the way, you have to visit this guy. I am his number one fan.

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1

(sketchup.google.com)

He does a model in just one week. I enjoy rendering for fun his models with kerkythea, this is my last one based on his Trajan's Forum.

Aerilius · 23 Oct 2009, 12:00

@alan fraser said:

I had to use the second, triangulated version.
Me too.
The collada version does not contain components. And as the roof + all balustrades are modeled, they make up 3/2 of the file.
I think in large models, especially generated models, its initial set up makes are huge difference (i.e. png images for balustrades...). Recently I reworked the roof tiles of a model and reduced the poly count to less than the half.

Has someone found the roman man? He would be useful for my me. I dream of something like this:
[flash=425,344:31lc30xb]http://www.youtube.com/v/ZA3gzqG94JQ&hl=de&fs=1&[/flash:31lc30xb]

Alan Fraser · 23 Oct 2009, 12:55

It will cost you a few cisterces. http://www.formfonts.com/viewModel.php?id=8465&config=1&action=&sub_action=&type=&active=
Of course you could always make a 2D Face Me from the thumbnail...for your own use, of course.

Gaieus · 23 Oct 2009, 14:15

I have a couple of photos taken in a Roman reenactment camp this summer. Some of them are actually not bad for 2D Face me's (sigh... planning to make some for quite a while now...)
http://picasaweb.google.com/csaba.pozsarko/Lugio2009FirstDayAndOpeningCeremony#

There are more images - I would just need to organise them and upload. Anyone feel free to use them for face me's or such however.

Update; this one is particularly tasty:

Alan Fraser · 23 Oct 2009, 14:32

Some more here. http://www.erminestreetguard.co.uk/cov/index.htm
Plebeians, obviously....terrible hairstyles.

michaliszissiou · 23 Oct 2009, 16:58

erilius wrote:
Also in my region, the barbarians abused the roman remains, mainly as stone quarries. From one villa rustica, there are still 2 out of ~35 columns left - used as grindstone by a blacksmith.
Gaieus wrote:
It hapened in all the roman empire. In Spain too. In fact the famous mosque of Córdoba (now is catholic Cathedral) has one of the best collection of roman capitals of spain. In their columns.

It happens every were. It happens in greek orthodox churches too. Ancient marbles and columns from greek temples as walls of beautiful byzantine churches. This is the truth. Lets not talk about "barbarians", lets talk about what is civilization.

Aerilius · 23 Oct 2009, 17:27

In fact they are (partly) my ancestors.

michaliszissiou · 23 Oct 2009, 17:37

Well aerilius, my ancestors are ancient greeks.
Only in our imagination...

notareal · 23 Oct 2009, 19:52

@pichuneke said:

By the way, you have to visit this guy. I am his number one fan.

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1

(sketchup.google.com)

He does a model in just one week. I enjoy rendering for fun his models with kerkythea, this is my last one based on his Trajan's Forum.

Thanks for the hint!

thomthom · 24 Oct 2009, 09:42

Wish I had a job of modelling ancient building like this.

Gaieus · 24 Oct 2009, 09:51

Yesterday I visited the excavation site again and we finalised some pending details. They are about half an hour to model and then comes texturing (and rendering of course - I am very excited). There are some more "WIP images" here.

Note that they are indeed WIP - mostly for testing reasons and such (therefore I didn't even post them here).

Alan Fraser · 24 Oct 2009, 12:15

@thomthom said:

Wish I had a job of modelling ancient building like this.

Yes, it must be fascinating work. Some of the detailing on that City Engine, Rome Reborn project is quite stunning. It's hard to believe that this is the detailing on a procedural temple.

Gaieus · 14 Apr 2010, 19:12

I am still working on this one. Here is another "WIP" render (Twilight)

Gaieus · 22 Apr 2010, 10:07

Some of you may know that there is a similar (well, not too similar but at least example) of these lateRoman basilicas in Trier. So I decided to make a comparison between this and that.

[flash=480,385:3ua27h08]http://www.youtube.com/v/YBF6rJIhTnQ&hl=en_US&fs=1&[/flash:3ua27h08]