Latest Work with Curved Roof Design
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@kwistenbiebel said:
Is that a PVC cilinder in the middle?
Wouldn't that be a weak spot in the construction?Looks like PVC but we are thinking steel.
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Fred,
If you're going to model with the connector I modeled, you should move the two stut "u-straps" as far up, and as far down, as possible. I modeled them in more central positions, to ensure that they wouldn't interfere with skinning.
The bottom strap can probably be (would best be) moved all the way down, without ever having to be subsequently moved.
The top strap should be positioned as high as possible, without "poking" above the top surface of the strut.
A "shorter" hub pipe would permit central positioning on the end of the strut, with the strut-straps at the top-most and bottom-most positions, all the time.
I'm thinking tension forces, not compression forces. Compression would push the strut against the hub, and all's okay. Tension, however, would pull the strut away from the hub. If the strut U-straps are more-centrally located, the hub-strap could bend. If the strut straps are positioned at the extreme upper/lower locations, bending of the hub-strap should be ruled out.
(I would have modeled that way, had I thought of the tension-force potential earlier.)
Taff
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seems to me this would be simpler and maybe even stronger?
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xrok, the major problem with your approach is that the triangles forming the roof surface actually intersect over the center of the pipe, and to make this happen the beams need to attach to the pipe circumference at different heights from the top of the pipe. The attached images should help to make this clearer. Fred
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could you not cut the top of the pipe at an angle?
or slot the lumber:
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how can it be simple when it looks like you would need a degree to figure out those non uniform triangles?anyway, all the best with your project.
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xrok1, Some interesting ideas! There are obviously multiple ways to solve this problem. What I'm aiming for is hub hardware that is simple, easy to work with, and strong. Your ideas are definitely heading in that direction. Fred
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Fred,
Further simplification, using thinner galvanized plate (the same stuff of which joist hangers are made.)
The bolt can be more-simply replaced with a long clevis-pin, making assembly much easier/faster (possibly cheaper, too.)
This is pretty close to your original connector design, and can be bent, using a jig and hydraulic press (jack) or vise & hammer. Since it's made of "plate" material, it doesn't have to be as thick as the straps in my first model. Additionally, it permits a more intimate strut-to-pipe fit.Taff
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xrok1,
Those tiger-grain oak struts should provide for a very impressive (and expensive) ceiling !
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thats all i could find in the garage!
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Taff,
Nice clean simple design. Now we just need to get it manufactured in volume. If you get a patent then Simpson will consider.
http://www.strongtie.com/ideas/index.htm?source=topnav
Fred
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Maybe useable...
http://www.strongtie.com/products/connectors/bc.asp
if pilot hole is used with bolt, sure you should not, but I think it this case it wount be an issue. -
Had the opportunity to develop my curved roof ideas during an online course on Green Roofs offered by the Boston Architectural College.
Additional images here: http://dws.editme.com
Still working on a hub connector and a number of other components of this building approach but making slow and steady progress. Another five years, who knows?
Any leads, comments, feedback much appreciated.
Thanks, Fred
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