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    Newbie Tutorial - How to close any face in Sketchup

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    • EarthMoverE Offline
      EarthMover
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      Thanks Xrok1! Good suggestion....I never thought of that! πŸ‘

      3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
      Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
      Content Creator at Skapeup

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      • GaieusG Offline
        Gaieus
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        Cool video indeed. We all know that sometimes tracking down some tiny modelling glitches to find out why a particular face doesn't want to create is a PITA.

        The projection tools you used last can also be "supplemented" by the Drape tool.

        Gai...

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        • EarthMoverE Offline
          EarthMover
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          Thanks Csaba πŸ‘ ...that's another good one. The drape tool is actually easier and quicker I think. I never thought of the drape tool to drape upward, but it indeed works well. The other difference of using the drape tool vs. using the projection plugin is that the drape tool will project the edges into a grouped face and put them inside the group. The projection plugin puts the edges onto the outside of the group. Drape tool will make the edges automatically into a face and the projection plugin has to be done manually by redrawing a line or running Make Faces 1.1. Man, I learn something new everyday!!

          Xrok1 - I tried some experimenting with using the Fredoscale to make all edges co-planar, but had no luck. I used the scale to target, clicked on the Z handle, hit tab and tried to enter 0, but it doesn't seem to allow a zero input. Is there another way to work that?

          3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
          Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
          Content Creator at Skapeup

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          • M Offline
            MercurialArts
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            Why yes, this is frustrating! So, I am an artist making images in photoshop, using magic tracer 2.0 to convert from raster to dxf. Once I import into SU, I can't get a face on the outline, which seems to act as a component. The end result of this process would be dxf files a water jetter or laser cutter could use to cut metal and glass shapes, and the SU drawing being my working drawings. Stray lines finds nothing. But I still can't fill or extrude this shape. Where do I get the projection tools? I tried drape, it only takes the outline, and I have internal stuff as well. I have watched the video several times.... I don't have the bucks to buy more plugins, the software I have cost me my flex funding..

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            • urgenU Offline
              urgen
              last edited by

              ....and WELD πŸ˜‰
              weld.rar

              ....and very simple-SUNDBOX+SKIN πŸ˜†
              sundbox.rar

              --pupil forever...------

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              • M Offline
                MercurialArts
                last edited by

                So, when I try weld, its says pick at least 2 edges, when I try the sandbox contour method, it says I must choose contours. When I select even one line of my imported dxf the whole thing is selected with a box around it. Every line is blue. What does this mean? It would seem that all the lines are connected... but again, not a solid, no extrusion... Wha?

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                • M Offline
                  MercurialArts
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                  Ah, what a dork, yes, its a component, edit component, check for stray lines brought up 13 items, I am solid and extruded. Thanks for the tips, I just needed to figure out how to apply all those neeto tricks to my object! dxf gets imported as a component.
                  I had to
                  select component,
                  edit menu, component, edit component
                  then go through and use stray line tool and weld tool to fix it up. Tiny little problems that are super hard to see, but between repeated uses of both tools, wazambo!

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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
                    last edited by

                    You can also edit a component/group from the context ("right click") menu - or even better; just double click on it. If you triple click, you will end up "inside" its editing context PLUS all the geometry inside selected already.

                    Gai...

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                    • broomstickB Offline
                      broomstick
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                      awesome video, man. You taught me something i did' nt know about stray lines, and you introduced me to projection tools πŸ˜„

                      My I have your permission to do a similar video for my blog in Italian?

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                      • EarthMoverE Offline
                        EarthMover
                        last edited by

                        No problem Broomstick! Glad it was helpful. Feel free to use it as you wish.

                        Here is also a quick follow up video on Closing a face with the Drape Tool.

                        http://www.screencast.com/users/EarthMover/folders/Jing/media/3e2420f2-b79e-40eb-8083-720632e204b7

                        3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                        Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                        Content Creator at Skapeup

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                        • broomstickB Offline
                          broomstick
                          last edited by

                          thanks you are very kind. I'll aknowledge you in the video, and post the link as soon as it is up πŸ˜„

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                            mpkarch
                            last edited by

                            Earthmover,

                            I am curious to know where you got all the icons in your tutorial.

                            MPKArch

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                            • brookefoxB Offline
                              brookefox
                              last edited by

                              I posted a link to this, Adam, and send along my thanks as well. Duh... 'stray lines' was sitting lonely in my PI folder unnoticed and forgotten by me...

                              ~ Brooke

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                              • EarthMoverE Offline
                                EarthMover
                                last edited by

                                No problem. Some new plugins have been released since this tutorial that change the technique a bit.

                                Particularly "Edge Tools" from ThomThom - http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=24593 has the feature Close Gaps. This is much easier than "label stray lines" as it does the work of solving the gaps as well.

                                Also another one I find helpful with a stubborn face is "Flatten & Extrude" from ThomThom. -http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=23491. Once the gaps are closed you can group the edges and run the Flatten script and it will move all the verts to the same Z and close all the faces. (TIG's "Drop Verticies" will do similar on ungrouped edges but will not close the face automatically - http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=39251)

                                Hope this helps.

                                3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                                Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                                Content Creator at Skapeup

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                                • brookefoxB Offline
                                  brookefox
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                                  Great... but given the omnipresence of the issue your tut is good enough to warrant updating and sticking somewhere! (G man πŸ€“)

                                  ~ Brooke

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                                  • P Offline
                                    pisosse
                                    last edited by

                                    @brookefox said:

                                    Great... but given the omnipresence of the issue your tut is good enough to warrant updating and sticking somewhere! (G man πŸ€“)

                                    CONCUR...!

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                                    • S Offline
                                      ScrubBrush
                                      last edited by

                                      @xrok1 said:

                                      you forgot freedo scale. scale to 0 in the z axis to make edges coplanar πŸ˜‰

                                      I know this is way behind the curve, but could someone put this into english for us nubs?

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                                      • GaieusG Offline
                                        Gaieus
                                        last edited by

                                        Fredo scale is a plugin (a very complex and powerful one actually) that takes a lot of SketchUp's native tools to a next level.

                                        I have been reading (and approving) your posts this morning as I got up and suggest to "learn how to walk before you start running" though but of course, learning how to install and use plugins should also be in your "curriculum".

                                        In short, here is Fredo scale: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=17948

                                        And what xrok meant here is that you can scale any loop of edges that is not co-planar to "Zero" which makes it co-planar then.

                                        Here are some screenshots.


                                        coplanar-1.png


                                        coplanar-2.png


                                        coplanar-3.png

                                        Gai...

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                                        • mitcorbM Offline
                                          mitcorb
                                          last edited by

                                          And this is a DUH moment for me regarding the scale to zero trick.

                                          I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                          • GaieusG Offline
                                            Gaieus
                                            last edited by

                                            It was for me, too. Just checked it out after the question made me curious. πŸ˜‰

                                            Gai...

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