2012
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Hmm..Guys what u are afraid of? Al people die at once ..sooner or later all things have an end..when will be that end??Only God knows..Mark 13:32 "But of that day or that hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."
Anyway all of us will have everlasting life,the exception is that ones will be without God and the others(the real christians-the real sons of God ;being an authentic christian doesn t mean to be religious) will live with God.Making a small parallel think like living in a world without kindness,love,light,true,faith,righteousness,mercifulness(each of these represent God) and living in a world with all these.And btw there will be nothing that u have seen in this life,and even think about -But, as it is written, "What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man conceived, what God has prepared for those who love him,"1 Corinthians 2:9.
And yet all people who have these qualities(kindness,love,light,true,faith,righteousness,mercifulness) are those who still keep this planet standing;and who are those people(and in who and/or what they trust)?
Yes i feel offended,not because i am a christian but because the christians are misunderstood.What people don t get it s that God is a "God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and right is He." Deuteronomy 32:4.
And btw there will be a very visible sign that The End is close...The Lifting up of the christians..yeah i know u don t even believe in God,but,if in ur lifetime this will happen,remember that The End is close.
And yes i know you believe i m a fool but i chose to be a fool in ur eyes than being without fear of God because " The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom,.." Proverbs 9:10;so
18 Let no one deceive himself. If any one among you thinks that he is wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is folly with God. For it is written, "He catches the wise in their craftiness," 1 Corinthians 3:18-19
And yet i hope to see you in Heaven living our everlasting life which can t be boring because "But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." 2 Peter 3:8 .
We can t limit God in our imagination.He is not a god he is GOD.
And now i want to answer to the first question i wrote: U are afraid of finding that you are fighting against God.
Have a good evening.God bless you!Elisei
PS:Sorry for bad phrases.
PPS:And btw the Earth will end up in fire!!--> 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow about his promise as some count slowness, but is forbearing toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up. -
I like u as well but i know u are a smart man,is it enough for u just to live for dying?
If i have been born just for dying after n years what is the point of life,i m not much different than an animal. And yet,don t know why u feel so offended by me?Did i do something that i m not aware?
Ecclesiastes 3 1 For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under heaven: 2 a time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up what is planted; 3 a time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; 4 a time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance; 5 a time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing; 6 a time to seek, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away; 7 a time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; 8 a time to love, and a time to hate; a time for war, and a time for peace. 9 What gain has the worker from his toil? 10 I have seen the business that God has given to the sons of men to be busy with. 11 He has made everything beautiful in its time; also he has put eternity into man's mind, yet so that he cannot find out what God has done from the beginning to the end. 12 I know that there is nothing better for them than to be happy and enjoy themselves as long as they live; 13 also that it is God's gift to man that every one should eat and drink and take pleasure in all his toil. 14 I know that whatever God does endures for ever; nothing can be added to it, nor anything taken from it; God has made it so, in order that men should fear before him.With all respect,Elisei.
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I wish to tell u more but because i respect u,i will stop responding.Anyway i wish u/all a happy life.And yet i don t know why u feel offended?
My freedom is to be as/what i am!!hehe
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As a true dolphin that i am, i must say that it is a lie.
We are not singing that song, the one that Solo points in his post.
We knew about that song because our ancestors told us. We learned that "we" sang it years and years ago, when the Flood came.
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Re. Modelhead affirmation: “Your God has nothing to offer me...I have it already.”
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There will be a new heaven and a new earth and the actual ones will pass away (they will disappear)…! (see, please, Revelation 21:1)
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“For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world. The world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God lives forever.” (1 John 2:16-17)
… or (other version):
“For everything in the world - the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does - comes not from the Father but from the world. The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does the will of God lives forever.” (1 John 2:16-17)
Cornel
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Modelhead, let the reader understand!
“God chose things despised by the world, things counted as nothing at all, and used them to bring to nothing what the world considers important. As a result, no one can ever boast in the presence of God. God has united you with Christ Jesus. For our benefit God made him to be wisdom itself. Christ made us right with God; he made us pure and holy, and he freed us from sin. Therefore, as the Scriptures say, If you want to boast, boast only about the LORD.” (1 Corinthians 1:28-31)
Cornel
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This looks like fun, can I play also?
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Modelhead,
behold several examples of true religion:
“Not everyone who calls me their Lord will get into the kingdom of heaven. Only the ones who obey my Father in heaven will get in.” (Matthew 7:21) “Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.” (James 1:27) “For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, even so faith apart from good works is dead.” (James 2:26) “… to walk worthily of the Lord unto all pleasing, bearing fruit in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;” (Colossians 1:10)Cornel
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hmmph!, there you go again quoting from your book of parables, also it's amazing how the fundamentally religious types are drawn like moths to a flame whenever impending doom is a subject, strange bunch y'all are.
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here we go...we have a new player...
remember the rules 
There are no rules 
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I recommend Fingerprints of the Gods by Graham Hancock - that talks about 'lost' civilisations and echos from the Mayan history and before them.
Perhaps we will be a lost civilisation? This will be the new dark age if no one records what people ramble on about on internet forums.
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Yes, TWP Designs, "we will be a lost civilisation"!
Voila an old example, w/ God’s fingerprint:
“He (Jesus) replied: “If they kept quiet, the stones along the road would burst into cheers!” But as he came closer to Jerusalem and saw the city ahead, he began to weep. “How I wish today that you of all people would understand the way to peace. But now it is too late, and peace is hidden from your eyes. Before long your enemies (roman army, during Titus – 70 a.d.) will build ramparts against your walls and encircle you and close in on you from every side. They will crush you into the ground, and your children with you. Your enemies will not leave a single stone in place, because you did not accept your opportunity for salvation.” (Luke 19:40-44)
Actual civilisation, again, "did not accept opportunities for salvation"… (it didn’t recognize the time of its visitation...)Cornel
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@twp designs said:
Perhaps we will be a lost civilisation? This will be the new dark age if no one records what people ramble on about on internet forums.
I think if anything happens in the nearest few years, I hope it will teach us to work together, support each other and recognise simple impulses coming from our 'hearts'.
Modelhead, you are looking for an example of a good fruit of a religion. I think the humble and full of compassion person of Theresa of Calcutta could bring you an idea of true fruits of Christianity.
I hope that 2012 film is just an occasion for several people earn a lot of money and we will experience the shift in our way of thinking of the World as a whole, rather then the shift of the earth axis.
Tomasz
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Oh ... from the Good Book, a classic in its own right:
"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads." -Leviticus 20:13
While freedom of religion, and respect towards religious people, are desirable, religion potentially is an extremely destructive force - we should be wary of it.
Wait ... is that the doorbell? Who could it be? Hey - it's the Witnesses! Great! runs off wielding aluminum rod - better safe than sorry!
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from the link you provide Stinkie,
I quote something :
.."The point is not the honest relief of suffering but the promulgation of a cult based on death and suffering and subjection."
...Mother Teresa is thoroughly saturated with a primitive fundamentalist religious worldview that sees pain, hardship, and suffering as ennobling experiences and a beautiful expression of affiliation with Jesus Christ and his ordeal on the cross. Hitchens reports that in a filmed interview Mother Teresa herself tells of a patient suffering unbearable pain from terminal cancer: "With a smile, Mother Teresa told the camera what she told the patient: 'You are suffering like Christ on the cross. So Jesus must be kissing you.'" Apparently unaware that the response of the sufferer was a put-down, she freely related it: "Then please tell him to stop kissing me."..he maybe right,
who knows ?But which is the service, the action to try to save people from starving or from deseases that this man is taking ? Anyone knows ?
In my view mother Teresa did what her heart told her to do. And she was lead by compassion.
Where is compassion ? Where is it in the the rational world ?
Compassion is the clue for us to live together.
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Mother Teresa was a naïve nun, used by others as a mask, as a ‘color’ for their ‘image’…
Stinkie,
All civilisations which confounded Liberties (Freedom) w/ Libertinage (neglecting rules such as Leviticus 20:13), were liquidated in an abrupt manner...Juan wrote:
%(#0000FF)[“Compassion is the clue for us to live together.
Otherwise we will all go to the hell of killing.”]
Behold the real COMPASSION:“When Jesus went ashore, He saw a large crowd, and He felt compassion for them because they were like sheep without a shepherd; and He began to teach them many things.” (Mark 6:34)
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son (Jesus), that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.” (John 3:16)
Cornel
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Cornel,
Leviticus 20:13 is an abomination - a savage moral imperative, concocted by savages, and adhered to by savages.
Oh ... I take it that, considering you're using the word libertinage, you feel that gay men and women are without morals?
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This is the weirdest movie critique I've ever read.
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Here's what I've never understood:
If salvation is just a simple "I accept Jesus Christ into my heart as my Lord and Savior" step away, why waste any of the finite here worrying about the infinite hereafter? Why not focus on the gift of each fleeting moment? On the meaning and good use of said gift we've been given...and for what reason?
Shoot, why not put off that step a bit longer still and check out pergatory...might be cleansing? Even take a 5day/4night excursion through hell...just to see? If it gets too hot: say the magic words and zap! you're saved!
I just don't get it...?
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