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    • R Offline
      rv1974
      last edited by

      It looks like Google Sketchup killer*:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmMmeghf8gA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fdirty.ru%2Fcomments%2F254952&feature=player_embedded
      examples:
      http://www.c3technologies.com/en_demo.php

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        We've been using this map tech for a while now. Became available on the Norwegian map service http://kart.finn.no/ under a year ago. Really nice tool. Just wish it was possible to extract data from it.

        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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        • R Offline
          rv1974
          last edited by

          Nice. I think sketchup is slowly becoming obsolete (as a tool for GE\Google Maps filling in). No need
          in proletariat for manual work.

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          • MarianM Offline
            Marian
            last edited by

            Yea that is aweosme i wnat one

            http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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            • K Offline
              kwistenbiebel
              last edited by

              Now who wants to model buildings for GE after seeing this ? 😄

              What will Google do with Sketchup in the future?
              Finally focus on its 'serious' modeling capabilities instead of the low res GE thingies? I hope so...

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              • boofredlayB Offline
                boofredlay
                last edited by

                More likely, it will be shelved.

                http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                • Mike LuceyM Offline
                  Mike Lucey
                  last edited by

                  Wow, the C3 Technologies system makes SU and GE look like stone age technology. But again it seems to be a system design to produce 'tourist' views. The guy demonstrating the system failed to outline exactly what uses this technology really has, except that its possible to see the roof repairs in the Swedish King's pad 😒

                  So! to get into this C3 stuff all we need is a SAAB jet fighter and a load of equipment! Mmmm, wonder how much that would set one back. For example could this data be 'caught' with a chopper? Or even a Dragonflyer X6 http://www.gpsmagazine.com/2008/08/dragonflyer_x6_is_the_most_awe.php Now that would bring it down to some some of a business level as I think most company's budgets would not stretch anywhere near a kitted out SAAB jet 😆

                  What's the next step? Getting this data directly from a satellite? Maybe this is not a daft as it sounds!

                  It will be slightly disheartening working away of the SU/GE con=combo now after seeing all this 😕 But I suppose we have to work with what we have.

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
                    last edited by

                    @mike lucey said:

                    except that its possible to see the roof repairs in the Swedish King's pad

                    Norwegian king. They demoed Oslo.

                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                    • Mike LuceyM Offline
                      Mike Lucey
                      last edited by

                      Eric,

                      I doubt SU would ever be shelved in the near future as it was not bought out by a competitor! If Google finds a better way to produce GE models I imagine SketchUp would continue as a good app for making 3D models and hopefully be developed further to meet these needs, not always slanting towards GE uses.

                      Maybe it would not be such a bad idea if Google hired a couple of those SAAB jet fighters to cover the globe and get the info in!

                      These buildings would then need some interiors as those SAABs would not have xray vision! Then again, maybe that is there next trick 😒

                      Mike

                      PS: I feel I need to read 'Who Moved My Cheese?' again for some strange reason 😆

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                      • Alan FraserA Offline
                        Alan Fraser
                        last edited by

                        Astounding technolgy. I think you are being a little negative, Mike. You could just as easily do this from any kind of plane or even a chopper. In any case, much of the Google Earth imagery is not satellite coverage either. All the hi-res stuff is taken from aircraft...same as C3. It seamlessly goes from satellite to aerial as you zoom in.

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
                          last edited by

                          The technology could probably be used (in this or that quality) from smaller planes as well. My city council got an offer for something like this at about € 4-500,000 although I'mnot sure what technology they would've used exactly.

                          Also, there's always a question of "details". From the point cloud mesh like image he was showing, many of the buildings wouldn't meet Google's acceptance criteria as far as poly count goes i.e. lots of useless vertices on (presumably) simple, flat faces, too.

                          Yet definitely a stunning tour as seen on the video. 👍

                          Gai...

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                          • T Offline
                            tomasz
                            last edited by

                            I have had a look at Oslo and overall level of detail gives very good impression of the city, but if single buildings, especially those smaller, look funny. They are not rectangular but rather 'sub-divided'. One cannot view a building from a street level. Position of a camera seems to be limited to several meters above buildings.

                            What I like is that the web plugin is very small 😄

                            Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
                              last edited by

                              Something weird has happened to the map data since I last used this service. The maps for Trondheim is all very dark. They used to be very clear before. hm... or maybe it's a problem on my end?

                              anyone else see the maps as very dark for Trondheim? http://kart.finn.no/?mapType=3D&utmx=271370&utmy=7041731&heading=163&pitch=47&distance=200&autoRotate=0&showPin=1&mapPinX=271354&mapPinY=7041714

                              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                tomasz
                                last edited by

                                I knew someone would find a way, sooner or later, to do this straight from pictures. When I looked at Birds Views in M$ Virtual Earth, it was so evident for me that combining high resolution aerial pictures with a technology similar to VideoTrace would definitely work. For me the most amazing thing is the fact, that 3D model has been acquired automatically from pictures without human interaction.

                                With computers and GPUs getting faster and faster, the amount of polygons should not be a problem. I am not sure about bandwidth of our internet connection, if it would take it. I think he had all data on his laptop.

                                I have done one model for GE and doing new one. The C3 method is good for a large areas. He didn't show a close-up of a single building from a street perspective. The automation of the process have certainly drawbacks. The 'Triumphal Arch' had no opening in it as far as I can tell.

                                Anyway, what he has shown was stunning.

                                EDIT. I have now checked Thomas' link and have to explore cities in 3D!
                                Thanks
                                Tomasz

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                                  tomasz
                                  last edited by

                                  @thomthom said:

                                  anyone else see the maps as very dark for Trondheim?

                                  It looks like they have taken pictures in the late afternoon or in winter with long shadows.

                                  Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    @thomthom said:

                                    anyone else see the maps as very dark for Trondheim?

                                    It looks like they have taken pictures in the late afternoon or in winter with long shadows.

                                    Not during winter - it'd be white with snow then. It looks like the same imagery they used before, except that they've been darkened with too much contrast.

                                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      tomasz
                                      last edited by

                                      Right, definitely not during winter 😳 😄

                                      Here is a transmission tower from your home town. It shows limitation of the current image processing method.


                                      It doesn't look like a tower with balconies...

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                                      • GaieusG Offline
                                        Gaieus
                                        last edited by

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        Here is a transmission tower from your home town. It shows limitation of the current image processing method.

                                        At least our "manpower" to model manually for GE is saved for a couple of years.
                                        😉

                                        Let's get rich NOW!

                                        Gai...

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                                        • Jean LemireJ Offline
                                          Jean Lemire
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi folks.

                                          If you need images taken from a hundred meters or so of altitude to get more details, you can consider using Kite Aerial Photography (KAP). Much cheaper than renting a plane or an helicopter. Of course you need steady winds and a place to launch an retrieve the kites.

                                          If you are curious, look for "kite aerial photography", "kap" and "kaper" on the Internet. You will certainly find the sites of some of the best pfotographers using this technique (some call themselves "kaper"). I know a few kapers. Among them is Craig Wilson from Madison, Wisconsin, USA, who took splendid photographies of downton Madison buildings.

                                          Just ideas.

                                          Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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