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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
      last edited by

      For the SSB plugin you need to select a series of edges (at least three) that form [url]a closed loop[/url]. In your model, there are no edges that would make a closed loop. If you go closer, you'll also notice that many of the edges of the current faces do not even meet each other so even closing them on the top wouldn't help much.

      Gai...

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        coach59
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        So do I need to rebuilt the transitions ? or create a "group of edges" ?

        One of the matter for me as a beginner, was to link directly the transitions with bottom, is there a way to do that? (like selecting a point on the transition and ask to link with bottom?

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
          last edited by

          Problem is that the edges of the (curved) surfaces of your sides do not meet (and merge) with the bottom face. There's a gap between them therefore you'll never achieve a smooth transition between the sides and the bottom.

          This also "results" in the lack of closed loops which would be needed for SSB to carry on modelling the pool.

          Gai...

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          • GaieusG Offline
            Gaieus
            last edited by

            See what I mean:


            ScreenShot002.png

            Gai...

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
              last edited by

              OK, I've made some modifications in your skp file and what is already done in there is okay. I could even make the SSB surface on one segment (closing the loop on the top -see attached file). However there are still some glitches in the file, see this screenshot. Without fixing them, you won't be able to perform the skinning.

              ScreenShot003.png
              (I saved the skippy back to version 6 for you)


              test5-1.skp

              Gai...

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              • soloS Offline
                solo
                last edited by

                Using SDS, just an idea.

                http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6848/pol1a.gif

                http://www.solos-art.com

                If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
                  last edited by

                  BTW Pete, why didn't you "challenge" the SDS tutorial contest?
                  I mean with so much "experience" in organic modelling, you could probably have made some really nice examples.

                  Gai...

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                    coach59
                    last edited by

                    SDS ?

                    For the endpoint, I think I have the solution, I put the axis (green/blue/red..) where I want to my endpoint go to link. Then I can move it.

                    I created a group can push BUD en X/Y fonction on SSB but not skin.

                    I changed ratio and pressure on test 5-1.

                    I think I m not enough patient.....or "brilliant"


                    test5-1c.skp

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                    • soloS Offline
                      solo
                      last edited by

                      SDS = Subdivide and smooth, IMO the best way to achieve this and can be pretty accurate if you get your proxy right.

                      Csaba, regarding the competition, there are a few reasons, one, I had some work come in that took a lot of my time, and as you know doing a good tutorial does take time and especially if I did one, the expectations would have been much higher. So I guess I was scared to fail and never had the time to succeed.

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                        coach59
                        last edited by

                        I saw too Deform Plugin discussion that would be great too, but it doesn't exist.

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
                          last edited by

                          @solo said:

                          ...especially if I did one, the expectations would have been much higher. So I guess I was scared to fail and never had the time to succeed.

                          Well, according to Dale, there were no crowds taking part unfortunately.

                          @coach59 said:

                          I saw too Deform Plugin discussion that would be great too, but it doesn't exist.

                          What deform plugin do you mean?

                          @coach59 said:

                          I think I m not enough patient.....or "brilliant"

                          SSB does indeed needs some patience until you get the hang of it. Don't get distracted or discouraged by the initial lack of immediate success.

                          Gai...

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                            coach59
                            last edited by

                            @unknownuser said:

                            There is a version 6 there now for you.

                            for what ?

                            Gaieus you helped me a lot by pointing my mistakes; I will try again to achieve the project to understand SSB. I am sure I am near to understand.

                            For the deform plugin it is a topic about an idea for this plug in

                            http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=19321

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                            • GaieusG Offline
                              Gaieus
                              last edited by

                              @coach59 said:

                              For the deform plugin it is a topic about an idea for this plug in

                              http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=19321

                              Ah, I remember that topic. It's a cool idea however it's not been implemented yet.

                              Gai...

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                              • soloS Offline
                                solo
                                last edited by

                                Another way of using SDS.

                                [flash=480,360:190vhwqi]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/FYQESyCetMA[/flash:190vhwqi]

                                http://www.solos-art.com

                                If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                  coach59
                                  last edited by

                                  I think I am near the end but I always can't use SSB for the last two parts....

                                  http://img6.hostingpics.net/pics/862263test6.jpg

                                  if someone can tell me what is the matter, where is the mistake...?


                                  near the end

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                                    coach59
                                    last edited by

                                    @solo said:

                                    Another way of using SDS.

                                    [flash=480,360:1b9v4j5g]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/FYQESyCetMA[/flash:1b9v4j5g]

                                    this plug in is crazy, that seems ideal for me!!!

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                                      solo
                                      last edited by

                                      favicon

                                      (www.smustard.com)

                                      http://www.solos-art.com

                                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                      • GaieusG Offline
                                        Gaieus
                                        last edited by

                                        Again, make sure to select allsurrounding edges to make a closed loop. In the model, on both sides, there are very little edge pieces at the ends and failing to select them for the SSB plugin will result an error message (I bet you kept receiving). Also make sure ti turn on hidden geometry to select those softened lines, too.

                                        SSB.png
                                        Other than this (probable) selection problem, I found nothing and could do the skinning fine. Note however that the top edge of your pool is not at the same height. This will cause problems when you want to fill it up with water.


                                        test6.skp

                                        Gai...

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                                          coach59
                                          last edited by

                                          ok i didn't know that we could have hidden edges, but for tiny bits, it is strange because I had green markers for placing my line that means that I am at an end point...

                                          Good advices for me that mean that I need to be rigorous. So I m going to check all tiny bits 😞

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