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      sepo
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      I think that is balcony with railings. That balcony slab goes full depth of the projecting parts. You are right as it is hand sketch that balcony slab confuses further.

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        I think I might have it now. The left most part that sticks out is deeper that it appears in the drawing.

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          Hmm... A revision here:

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            @sepo said:

            I think that is balcony with railings. That balcony slab goes full depth of the projecting parts. You are right as it is hand sketch that balcony slab confuses further.

            Ah! I see it now. There's some support underneath the balcony. That'd be a neat feature to model. Though the railing looks too short.

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              remus
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              I see what you mean, your revision is looking good 👍

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                sepo
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                I do not see it tapering like that. It goes agains logic of Gothic. I even think the left part projects for 450-600 mm to allow cornices to return properly. In that case railing goes past one on the right. Also I think You had your right bit correct first time.
                It appears there are some stone springers under the balcony on the first floor (you call it second)

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                  @sepo said:

                  It appears there are some stone springers under the balcony on the first floor (you call it second)

                  Yea. I keep doing that. In Norwegian we don't have 'ground floor'. The floor at the ground is the 'first floor'.

                  Anyone got an idea of what the features above the windows are?

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                    Third revision.
                    Thanks guys. I know it's neat picking being so obsessed about details in a sketch drawing, but... I like details. 😄

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                      sepo
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                      These are stone profiles which project. They are usually profiled. They are decorative and not really gothic...but than again the building looks more Victorian play of Gothic than true excersize in style.
                      BTW again your right corner would never return dead in the corner of the building so I am convinced the return is 90 rather than 45 or so exactly like you did first time.

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                        sepo
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                        Railing to ground floor needs to go further to front of the left piece so that it allows railing to go past right piece and than return 90 to the corner.

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                          thomthom
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                          I'm not on top of the term used.

                          @sepo said:

                          These are stone profiles which project.
                          I'm not sure what this means.

                          @sepo said:

                          BTW again your right corner would never return dead in the corner of the building so I am convinced the return is 90 rather than 45 or so exactly like you did first time.

                          Return? Where the outset wall meets the original wall? I didn't intend changing that from the WIP model, which does 'return' before the corner. It was just the quick draft. (If I understood this right...)

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                            @sepo said:

                            Railing to ground floor needs to go further to front of the left piece so that it allows railing to go past right piece and than return 90 to the corner.

                            Gotcha! Nice observation. 👍

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                              @sepo said:

                              They are decorative and not really gothic...but than again the building looks more Victorian play of Gothic than true excersize in style.

                              I'm not surprised that style clashes. Sketcher isn't an architect.
                              Do you know of any city's or building that'd be nice reference inspiration for further detailing?

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                                sepo
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                                Quick sketch


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                                  sepo
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                                  Now that looks much better. It is difficult one to pin on any city. I would think if the sketches are done by Terry or his mate they would probably reference what they know. A lot of town halls are doen in Gothic revival in England.

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                                    Ah, the balcony sticks further out. That would explains why the left side doesn't look deeper than the right.
                                    Thanks Sepo.

                                    Can I assume you're an architect? (They are usually good at spotting these things.)

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                                      @sepo said:

                                      Now that looks much better. It is difficult one to pin on any city. I would think if the sketches are done by Terry or his mate they would probably reference what they know. A lot of town halls are doen in Gothic revival in England.

                                      I think Ankh is based quite a bit on old London.

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                                        sepo
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                                        Yes , I am Chartered Architrect, practising one but also lecturer at University of Northampton.

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                                          sepo
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                                          here is my local Guildhall... try to find more work by this guy...He was quite good.
                                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northampton_Guildhall

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                                            The sketch is from Stephen Briggs map.

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            ..., so I began browsing through books of all the UK's main walled cities. I found one which fitted my requirements (Its name being withheld to prevent civil lawsuit)

                                            This is talking mainly about the street map structure though. But I'd think the illustration, which also came from the book, might be inspired from the same books.

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