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    • R Offline
      Ric2L
      last edited by

      @remus said:

      How big is the model? in megabytes i mean.

      12.3 MB (12,909,566 bytes)

      I just canceled the upload, and when I did SU stopped responding!! I guess its just the file size and too much detail. Too many little circles

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
        last edited by

        I have had models with size of 100-200MB due to large size textures. And I've also got a model of 800K faces. Running XP, Vista, Windows7, none of them have crashed.
        So I think it's a different problem. Could be hardware. Have you updated your drivers?

        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        • R Offline
          Ric2L
          last edited by

          @thomthom said:

          Have you updated your drivers?

          Which Drivers? they should all be up to date to my knowledge.

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          • R Offline
            remus
            last edited by

            Thomthom was probably refering to graphics drivers.

            As far as i know the warehouse only allows uploads of 10 mb or less, which might explain why yours was taking so long. im not sure what you could have done to make the fan grill alone 12 mb, though. That is enormous for such a component. theres definitely something fishy going on πŸ˜•

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            • soloS Offline
              solo
              last edited by

              I have not seen the word 'Layers' used once here, you may want to try that first and see if you can hide everything except the mesh you are working on, maybe it will be faster.

              http://www.solos-art.com

              If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
                last edited by

                The graphics drivers are the most likely culprit with SU. But it can also be worth to update your MB drivers as well.
                If you found a way to upload your model some where we could test it and verify whether it's a local problem that happens on your computer, or a model problem.

                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                • R Offline
                  Ric2L
                  last edited by

                  I have the latest Drivers from ATI for my video card (cat 9.3), not sure about mobo, will have to check asus site to make sure.

                  I have an older HP computer with XP and an Invidia 8600GT vid card installed, with an Athlon 4200+ dual core processor. I'm going to download SU 7 on it and draw up another grill & see how it acts on that machine, and go from there.

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                  • R Offline
                    Ric2L
                    last edited by

                    I just loaded SU7 onto my HP machine, & drew up another fan grill. The problems seem to be worse on that computer. As soon as I try to extrude to the proper thickness SU stops responding. its been a couple minutes now & its still not responding.

                    Would it help if i upload the grill with just the layout, not extruded, so you guys can try to extrude or figure out what is going on? Or should I just let it go and assume SU isnt powerful enough to do what I'm trying?

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      @ric2l said:

                      Would it help if i upload the grill with just the layout, not extruded, so you guys can try to extrude or figure out what is going on?

                      Yes please.

                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • R Offline
                        Ric2L
                        last edited by

                        For some unknown reason I just cant upload this model, even if its not extruded, tried it on both machines. I did upload a Bulgin power switch that I drew up the other day & uploaded just fine took about 1 minute if that long, so that leads me to believe its the model itself!!

                        If I ever figure out how to get to upload I will let ya know.

                        Thanks for the help in trying to figure this out.

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                        • Chris FullmerC Offline
                          Chris Fullmer
                          last edited by

                          Do you know how to use FTP? I can PM you a password to a folder on my FTP if you want to put it there for a few days.

                          Chris

                          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                          All my Plugins I've written

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                          • R Offline
                            Ric2L
                            last edited by

                            @chris fullmer said:

                            Do you know how to use FTP? I can PM you a password to a folder on my FTP if you want to put it there for a few days.

                            Chris

                            Don't know what "FTP" is, let alone how to use it. Appreciate the offer though.

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                              solo
                              last edited by

                              Upload it here: http://www.rapidshare.com/

                              then share the download link in thread.

                              http://www.solos-art.com

                              If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                              • R Offline
                                Ric2L
                                last edited by

                                Now that works, I should have thought of this myself.

                                Here you go:
                                http://rapidshare.com/files/215169821/Front_Fan_Grill.skp.html

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                                • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                  Chris Fullmer
                                  last edited by

                                  Yeah, unfortunately that is just too high poly count. The only thing you can do is to make it into a componnent and then move the component onto another layer that you keep turned off except when your exporting images or videos or something.

                                  Otherwise you could remodel it with the circles having fewer line segments. Its so small of a part that it won't be that noticeable. Or you replace it with a an image that looks like it. I don't like that option presonally, but it might work out well in this instance.

                                  Chris

                                  Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                  All my Plugins I've written

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    Yup. That mesh has 42K faces. Each circle of 1mm has 24 sides.
                                    AT what scale are you working? Will you ever be close up to the mesh? Macro style views? If not, you can get away with 6-8 sides for the circles. Or even just a texture.

                                    You will experience faster viewport if you turn of Profiles under the Edge section in the Styles window. Edge effects can slow down a model as much as shadows.

                                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    • R Offline
                                      Ric2L
                                      last edited by

                                      @thomthom said:

                                      Yup. That mesh has 42K faces. Each circle of 1mm has 24 sides.
                                      AT what scale are you working? Will you ever be close up to the mesh? Macro style views? If not, you can get away with 6-8 sides for the circles. Or even just a texture.

                                      You will experience faster viewport if you turn of Profiles under the Edge section in the Styles window. Edge effects can slow down a model as much as shadows.

                                      Scale is 1 to 1, won't really be close up, just want to be able to see through it.

                                      Is there a way to change the circle tool to only draw at 6 ot 8 sides? or would I have to draw them by hand. changing the sides would definatly work if there is an option that I don't know about that changes the number of sides.

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        You can change the number of edges and arches before your extrude them by using the Entity Into window.

                                        You can also set the number of sides when you draw circles and arches. Type "8s" in the VCB to make 8 sides, etc etc.

                                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        • R Offline
                                          Ric2L
                                          last edited by

                                          @thomthom said:

                                          You can change the number of edges and arches before your extrude them by using the Entity Into window.

                                          You can also set the number of sides when you draw circles and arches. Type "8s" in the VCB to make 8 sides, etc etc.

                                          I did'nt realize that, thank you. I'll give it a whirl.

                                          Thanks for all you guys' help

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