On what 3d models would u spend some money?
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Hi guys,I was wondering what kind of 3d model would u need and be ready to buy ...
I m trying to make some money with modeling but i don t know exactly what would people like to buy.
Any ideas..any requests
.I know that almost all people in this forum can do a lot of 3d models(of any kind),so it s pretty hard that there is someone who need something. 
Thanks!Elisei
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I think the question is 'who would most likely buy 3d components?'.
The answer is not a simple one, with so much free stuff available out there it's pretty difficult to create a market.
Form Fonts IMO has a great business model, the range of consistant high quality models they have are appealing to many companies that do not have the time to build the 'non essential' props that they use in their visualisations.I wish I had the answer, but I do not, I was hoping it was vegetation, but it's not.
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That s almost exactly what i was thinking ...but i did want to give a try and to find what u guys think...
Thanks!Elisei
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I saw that on Turbosquid lots of architectural related models is what makes the big bucks.
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This is a different twist on it but I think there is a market for custom textures. I see requests many times for materials that fall outside the stock variety. FormFonts has a wonderful selection but often I see people creating items that because of the brand, carry special proprietary textures, not always available on-line. I know I have to create many custom textures. There is often just a subtle difference between a stock material and the original but the branding requires that it be exact. Often I think it would be nice to just call someone, send them a snapshot and a spec and get them to build it. I have grown to enjoy making textures but I think I am in the minority.
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Elisei, there seems to be a shortage of shrubs. Everyone seems to concentrate on trees and exotics plants and flowers, but there aren't many 3D models of shrubs out there.
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I agree with Daniel - Shrubs!
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Anyone have an example of a 3D shrub that falls into the catagory of buyable?, I have been toying around with hedges and shrubs for a while but not yet made any available as some want uber low shrubs for backgrounds and some want them for foregrounds which would entail making them higher poly.
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and we came back to the beginning people would make their own model(even if they lost time) instead of buying 1$ 3d shrub...maybe because sketchup is an easy tool..
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It’s extremely difficult to make money by selling content, that’s why FF now has a number of artists that formerly tried to sell stuff through the various ‘shop window’ sites that will offer your work for sale for a percentage of the sale price. The original two modellers (myself and Allister Godfrey) both had our own retail sites, selling content by download and CD. The subscription model is better, even though we hear a few complaints about it.
I’d agree that it’s not for everyone. If for instance you only need a small selection of 3D people or 2D vegetation to scatter round your models, your probably better buying them outright from Got3D, Lowpolygon3D, Imagecels (or some of you guys). But there are many people who need a lot more than that…set designers, for instance, or people who are not satisfied by using the same figures over and over.
I think that Pete found…with his vegetation…the same thing that I did several years ago with my people CD. There may be expressions of enthusiasm on the forum and there will be an initial rush of orders, but ultimately it doesn’t amount to much. I think I did rather better with the People, but that was at a time when there was no Warehouse, when there were no 3D people at all other than two very basic figures you got with SU…and even before the introduction of the Face Me feature, so even 2D wasn’t an alternative.
The problem that any content maker is up against is the reluctance of anyone to part with money, even when it makes financial sense to do so. For instance, you can find most anything on FF…and if you can’t, we’ll probably make it for you via the request line. Therefore, members shouldn’t really need to part with any more than the annual subscription. Given that is a little under $200 per year and given that the average architect probably values his time at around $50 per hour, that ought to mean that if you spend longer than 4 hours per YEAR searching the Net for freebies you are actually losing money. (OK, so you undersell yourself at $25, so it’s 8 hours…big deal)
Sure you can search for free of an evening on the laptop while watching TV…but you could also be using that same time far more productively in promoting your business and generating more work. A single extra small job would more than pay for FF.Human nature being what it is, many people still won’t pay for stuff even when this logicality is pointed out to them.
Good luck to anyone willing to have a go. My advice would be to not set your prices too low. As I’ve already said, the main hurdle is persuading people to get their credit card out at all. Once it is out, a few dollars isn’t going to make much difference. I’d also consider offering them as dwg and 3ds, if possible. There are a lot more ACAD and Max users out there than SU Pro…and anyone not willing to pay for the program is probably not willing to pay for content either.I was selling my 3D figures at a little under $1 each…but that was bulk buying. If I remember right, there were about 129 figures on the CD for about $125. I think I made about $10,000 before folding the entire collection into the FormFonts start-up…but that was the result of near 6 months full-time work; and times are a lot harder now.
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That's interesting Alan. Thanks!
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@solo said:
Anyone have an example of a 3D shrub that falls into the category of buyable?, I have been toying around with hedges and shrubs for a while but not yet made any available as some want uber low shrubs for backgrounds and some want them for foregrounds which would entail making them higher poly.
I agree that it will be difficult to find a viable way to create and sell 3D models. Because of the size and momentum FormFonts has already, it is reasonable to expect that they can (and probably do), make significant sales into larger firms which make their model viable. (For example, if a large firm buys 200 licenses and a reduced price, it start to make the model viable).
That said, you might consider making models which are optimized for rendering packages. If adding a little reflection makes your plants usable with a rendering package, then you might be able to resell them through Podium or Render Plus. (With a little thought you could find an easy way to add reflective properties to the same plant which would work with both packages.) Similarly, they may be something useful you could do using the procedural bumps like wrinkle and marble.
Another idea is to create a library of plants for RpTreeMaker. (I have just asked the RpTreeMaker developer, whether he will be able to make items similar to some of your garden plants, like:
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A library of trees, plants, shrubs, etc. for RpTreeMaker would let the users use the components directly in SketchUp (as a 2D image), render them with Vray and/or Podium, load them into RpTreeMaker for modifications (age, etc.), and also use the treemaker definition to render higher quality plants in IRender nXt.
I'm not sure anyone would get rich from a RpTreeMaker library, but it might generate some revenue. Also, the RpTreeMaker format is used my nXt for Revit, AccuRender nXt for AutoCAD and Flamingo nXt for Rhino, so there might be a market for a plant library. (I have been trying to convince the developer to finance a library of trees but haven't had any success yet). But the bredth of the possible markets for a RpTreeMaker library might make it valuable for someone to do on the side. (As opposed to their "day job").
Al Hart
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Along the same thoughts as the Trees for multiple renderers idea, is the idea of creating a library of lights which would work with several renderers. You can create a light fixture which would work with IRender, Podium, Kerkethea, etc. and then sell the same library through one or more of the vendors. (We would be willing to sell the library even if it supported the other renderers.)
One interesting thing about lights is that you can probably start with lights already on the 3D Warehouse, modify them and sell them as part of a package. You would have to read the 3D Warehouse rules carefully, but I would be surprised if you could not modify a model and then resell it as a new model. (The 3D warehouse usage terms include that you agree that others are allowed "1. to reproduce the Content; 2. to create and reproduce derivative works of the Content; ")
So someone could make a nice library of lights, creating them themselves, and/or modifying content from the 3D warehouse, and then either sell them directly, or market them through one of the vendors, or another channel (like SketchUcation?).
I have tried this with a few models, (See: Desk Lamp) However, an independent third party might have better luck creating and marketing a library.
Al Hart
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I'd say houseplants. Its very hard finding really good 3D houseplants. Pete has a few in his plants package which I've yet to buy, (I'm unemployed, on benefits, and food has to come first
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Native British species of plants and trees are IMO very difficult to find as most modellers tend to focus on warm climate/tropical varieties. Due to our miserable climate, our visuals just don't look very convincing with cacti and palms! Tom's trees come closest.
I think there would be a market for this.Ely862me have you thought about approaching a local manufacturer or supplier, perhaps a furniture maker and offer to model there products in Skp/Dwg/3DS so that they can be downloaded from their website? You could explain that Sketchup is used by many architects and interior designers. By providing digital models there is a better chance that their products will be specified and ordered.
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@unknownuser said:
perhaps a furniture maker and offer to model there products in Skp/Dwg/3DS so that they can be downloaded from their website?
I live in High Point, NC where one of the largest furniture markets in the world takes place. Maybe I need to look more into modeling furniture for these companies. I've never really thought about it... one of those D'oh moments...
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FormFonts already does that...and some companies like Fox Racing, Prandina and Starbucks have approached us, but I warn you that many manufacturers just don't 'get' it. Sometimes with good reason...if you're planning to get a new coffee table, you just look in the catalogue and buy one; you don't do a full 3D model of your lounge or family room. So you'd likely be better concentrating on architectural elements or street furniture manufactureres rather than local domestic stuff.
We've even had some demand that we remove certain items from the site that have been requested by subscribers...even after we explain to them about the advantages of such product placement. In other words, they don't even want it done for free.
I have to say that we usually don't comply...these are original meshes, after all. We just remove all branding and reference to the original and claim it's generic. -
Linea..u have a point..BUT...as Alan said many manufacturers just don't 'get' it and usually the clients just watch a magazine and decide to buy or not.
Anyway i m glad i started this post...maybe at last somebody may be inspired by your posts.
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Many manufacturers don't get it, but some do. This type of work is less risky than arcvis or drawing products that don't exist yet. The objective is clearer and as a contractor you can quote the cost of the job much more accurately.
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