Bonzai 3D First Impressions
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Drew a box. Drew a rectangle on the box and "intruded" it. Drew a circle on the box and extruded that. Clicked on Derive > Revolve and it crashed. Probably 1 minute until the first crash!
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@lewiswadsworth said:
Server practically Slashdotted.
If nothing else demonstrates that SketchUp has "jumped the shark", that does.
I don't think SU has jumped the shark. Google just needs to pick a direction for SU or at least share what their direction of development is at this point. If it wasn't for all the script writers here at SCF and around the world extending SU's capabilites, I wouldn't be using it. It's starting to concern me that Google is letting there users develop their software. A big part of my workflow with SU now involves searching for scripts to do what SU, in my opinion, should have come with. This is getting tiresome, and I think beginning to start to push people away from SU to something with some 'out of the box' power, or at least keep looking for that 'sketchup killer'.
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It would be nice if their server didn't make me feel like I was on 56k again. The speed it goes at the moment is sooooooooooooooo slow.
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For software,
@unknownuser said:
A big part of my workflow with SU now involves searching for scripts to do what SU, in my opinion, should have come with. This is getting tiresome, and I think beginning to start to push people away from SU to something with some 'out of the box' power, or at least keep looking for that 'sketchup killer'
.that amounts to "jumping the shark."
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Ok so i played with the Windows version and was having issues.
On OSX it is behaving much better. I can actually get to the grips and manipulate objects. Could not do that on Windows or if i did i was pointing at something else
On the Mac if i use my track pad i can only zoom out
Loving the reshape tools, Twist, Bend, Bulge they all work in real time . Booleans work well too
Still finding the interface awkward
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I'm not completely disagreeing with you.
I'm curious as to how much longer the script writers are going to be willing to donate their time and effort to do what Google has had 3 years to do.
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Sorry guys could this be moved under * Extensions & Applications Discussions
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mine closes after 4-5 seconds
They call this beta? I think it is not even an alpha release.
I mean we have to enable compatibility mode in order to make it work in Vista. In software that came out in 2009, OuchI had my first meeting with products of this company in school, good old FormZ. Hated it. More then anything in my life. But was honestly hoping this will be better, but it looks so painfully familiar. I hope I am wrong and they turn it around. From a list of capabilities it sounds like a great software.
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@fakircho said:
Sorry guys could this be moved under * Extensions & Applications Discussions
Well since it is not an extension of SketchUp I am placing it in the Hardware, Software & Gadgets section of the Corner Bar.
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Pretty unstable...orbit camera control stopped almost immediately. Unintuitive, cumbersome tools. And to make selection with a crossing window requires you to choose another tool, on a flyout toolbar? Ouch.
Hmmm. Why in the world do they have to spell NURBS Nurbz ? Daft retrograde FormZ terminology!
Oops, crash.
Not ready for prime time.
But, since when did the general public get to see a SketchUp beta release? We have to give them that much credit.
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It appears to be form•Z in new knickers.
Seriously, it looks like the same app... a million different ways to draw a spline... working planes, all the floating palettes re the same.
I thought it was meant to be something new...
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BumZai
No mouse navigation and KRASH
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@andriyg81 said:
I mean we have to enable compatibility mode in order to make it work in Vista. In software that came out in 2009, Ouch
This struck me as odd as well.
In any case, as Lewis said, this one isn't ready for prime time yet.
Anyone else hoping MoI will have layers real soon?
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@unknownuser said:
Anyone else hoping MoI will have layers real soon?
For next release 2.0! Sure!
It will be the great news and will be some revolutionary than exist around
Can't give a date but must be this year
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Great. I don't use MoI that often, but every time I open it, I let out a sigh of relief. That Gibson fellow is doing a great job, IMO. Versatile, easy-to-use, fast and stable app he's got there. And he's done it all by himself - you paying attention, Google?
Mark my words: as soon as MoI got layers, I'm tossing SU in the bin. Yeah, I have been seeing a lot of eerie white screens lately. Raaaaaaaaah!
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@unknownuser said:
as soon as MoI got layers, I'm tossing SU in the bin.
you wrong, they are completing as like two crazy kids of different families!
Pleasure to use them is something cool -
I could be wrong, true. Then again, Google could learn a thing or two from monsieur Gibson, n'est-ce pas, mon grand?
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"Nurbz" is how Nurbs is spelled in lolspeak. Come on, any frequent visitor of icanhascheezburger.com knows that.
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@unknownuser said:
While we do not have plans to incorporate dimensioning tools in bonzai, we will have these (like SketchUp and much more) in formZ 7.0.
ZWebTech Support
no dimensions = no sale
looks like this is a free?(light version) of form-z written to suck you into purchasing form-z when you realize that the option you most need aren't there until you upgrade to BonzaiPRO (form-z).
or is it just me? if you like this program get Moi3D you'll like that better, and he's not trying to sell you MoiPRO.
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i think the script writers will stop when they find a SK killer, just like everyone else. SK is the prog we love to hate, its like our own child we overlook its flaws and and keep hoping it will grow up. the script writers are molding it into maturity, i think half of their efforts are just to show google what SK could and should be.
the thing i don't understand is that there are ump-teen 3d packages out there but somehow the elegant simplicity of SK seems to evade every other developer in the industry? nobody wants to make "another SK". i say please do, but finish the job, do it right. any developer please take SK loadup your favorite scripts play with it, see how it works, and how it dosn't; now don't go out and remake a 3Dmax or Silo or LW clone, make an SK clone, but fix it ,improve it, charge $295 for it ,then beat'em off with a stick and reserve my copy.
the sky really won't fall if someone goes head to head with SK as long as they do it right ,the customer base is already there just waiting.
remember one man made Moi3d http://moi3d.com/(similiar to SK but nurb based)really nice program. i think an SK clone would be an easier task for talented people(s). (give it a try Whaat
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