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    • D Offline
      Double Espresso
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      @unknownuser said:

      @double espresso said:

      My point is that the man who threw the shoe, yes, I agree he has a right to regard Bush as a tyrant who invaded his country, was able to get away with it because he is protected by the very principles he wants to overthrow.

      Excusez-moi? I have to ask: have you been taking acid?

      (Hi Sid! 👿 )

      Why would you think I'm on acid?
      Clearly, the intent of my comment has been lost in translation. I give up.

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        Stinkie
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        Unless your initial comment was meant to be ironic, and I didn't get that, nothing was 'lost in translation'. I asked whether you're on acid because of your bizarre assumtion the Iraqi journalist wants to overthrow the principles that protect him. Clearly you're assuming far too much.

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          pbacot
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          @sepo said:

          As I said before it is very easy to be of high moral when does not affect you. I have good experience of war and that is where I am coming from. My post is not there to change really anyones mind.

          DOESN'T AFFECT ME?

          Eight years and now look at my country! Military trashed. Economy screwed. Human rights degraded. International honor in the gutter.

          Fortunately not all those who experience war become terrorists or even shoe throwers. Or then where would we be? We have some of our greatest leaders from the experience of wars, sad as that seems.

          BTW what did I do to make the world a safer place? For one I voted against Bush twice, and then I voted against McCain. (just 'cause I can see another ad hominem flying in from the other side.)

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            Double Espresso
            last edited by

            @unknownuser said:

            Unless your initial comment was meant to be ironic, and I didn't get that, nothing was 'lost in translation'. I asked whether you're on acid because of your bizarre assumtion the Iraqi journalist wants to overthrow the principles that protect him. Clearly you're assuming far too much.

            Unfortunately, you seem to be so consumed by your hatred of Bush that whatever I say will always be related back to him. The principles that I am speaking of are the ones that all of us who live in Western Society embrace. Freedom of speech and religion, equality for women etc. We take these rights for granted and it occurred to me while I was watching how this thread evolved that while the Iraqi reporter obviously hates Bush and all he stands for, he will probably escape punishment for his action because of the Western principles he deplores.
            I wonder if he threw a shoe at a member of the Saudi Royal Family he would fare so well.

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            • soloS Offline
              solo
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              I just do not see the big deal in all of this, if the reporter was an American and he threw two rotten tomatoes and missed what would happen to him?
              The shoe is not a deadly weapon and it's the muslim equivalent of a western 'rotten tomato'.

              I doubt that the American reporter would end up with such severe injuries and possible 15 years imprisonment.

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                bellwells
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                @double espresso said:

                @unknownuser said:

                Unless your initial comment was meant to be ironic, and I didn't get that, nothing was 'lost in translation'. I asked whether you're on acid because of your bizarre assumtion the Iraqi journalist wants to overthrow the principles that protect him. Clearly you're assuming far too much.

                Unfortunately, you seem to be so consumed by your hatred of Bush that whatever I say will always be related back to him. The principles that I am speaking of are the ones that all of us who live in Western Society embrace. Freedom of speech and religion, equality for women etc. We take these rights for granted and it occurred to me while I was watching how this thread evolved that while the Iraqi reporter obviously hates Bush and all he stands for, he will probably escape punishment for his action because of the Western principles he deplores.
                I wonder if he threw a shoe at a member of the Saudi Royal Family he would fare so well.

                I understood the journalist is/was punished/hurt because Maliki was so close to the incident. Your point about Western principles is not lost on me, by the way.

                Ron

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                  linea
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                  @unknownuser said:

                  The principles that I am speaking of are the ones that all of us who live in Western Society embrace.

                  Does that include Bush's lies that he had strong evidence that Iraq was linked to 911 and had Weapons of Mass destruction? Claims that he later denied making. Great principles.
                  http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7SUBGtRIiXo

                  As I said, he was lucky it was just a shoe. Solo is right, if an american or european had thrown fruit at an arab leader, the news channels would bill it as hilarious and repeat the video for weeks.

                  Incidentally it seems the shoe thrower was beaten in custody.
                  http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/shoe-throwing-journalist-beaten-according-brother-20081217

                  Lets put this in perspective, on one side is a man who lied and started a war.
                  On the other side a man throws a sandal and misses.

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                    pbacot
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                    @linea said:

                    Lets put this in perspective, on one side is a man who lied and started a war.
                    On the other side a man throws a sandal and misses.

                    I'll drink to that. Let's leave this and go over and see how Kevin's doing on that car.

                    Why is the Google ad with this thread now: "Arab Women--Hot!" ???

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                    • J Offline
                      Jackson
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                      @pbacot said:

                      Why is the Google ad with this thread now: "Arab Women--Hot!" ???

                      These Google ads are creeping me out- I was just thinking about hot Arabic women! 😳

                      Jackson

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                        Jackson
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                        Alan, I just noticed something, we are almost perfectly synchronised- look at our post count!

                        It's like when women who work together gradually synchronise their monthlies, especially....

                        ...hot arab women. 😕

                        p.s. I wonder if this contravenes the Google ad sense rules? I'll have to check the rules on my powerful feature-packed Hewlett-Packard laptop while I sit here drinking a refreshing ice cold Coca-Cola.

                        Jackson

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                          Stinkie
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                          @double espresso said:

                          @unknownuser said:

                          Unless your initial comment was meant to be ironic, and I didn't get that, nothing was 'lost in translation'. I asked whether you're on acid because of your bizarre assumtion the Iraqi journalist wants to overthrow the principles that protect him. Clearly you're assuming far too much.

                          Unfortunately, you seem to be so consumed by your hatred of Bush that whatever I say will always be related back to him. The principles that I am speaking of are the ones that all of us who live in Western Society embrace. Freedom of speech and religion, equality for women etc. We take these rights for granted and it occurred to me while I was watching how this thread evolved that while the Iraqi reporter obviously hates Bush and all he stands for, he will probably escape punishment for his action because of the Western principles he deplores.
                          I wonder if he threw a shoe at a member of the Saudi Royal Family he would fare so well.

                          The point I was trying to make was that neither of us knows whether or not the journalist 'deplores' Western priniples. As I said, you assume far too much. I've posted this link before, and I will post it again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor.

                          As far as I'm concerned, this concludes our little debate (yours and mine, that is), unless you come up with 100 % watertight proof the forementioned journalist is indeed something of an islamist obscurantist who strongly opposes freedom of speech, equality for women, etc.

                          As a side note: I find it surprising that when someone points out that you assume too much, you answer by adding another assumption to the mix ("Unfortunately, you seem to be so consumed by your hatred of Bush (...)"). This is higly illogical.


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                            Alan Fraser
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                            You two do realise that by repeating the words "hot arab women" that you are reinforcing the bias of the ads on this page? And the more you mention hot arab women, the more ads containing the terms hot, or arab, or women will appear. I think it would be a good idea not to mention any of those words...hot or arab or women...any more.

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                              sepo
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                              @unknownuser said:

                              I understood the journalist is/was punished/hurt because Maliki was so close to the incident.

                              How did you arrived on that one, 😮

                              I supose Bush is validated, he finally found shoe of mass distruction (size 10 to be precise).

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                                notareal
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                                @alan fraser said:

                                You two do realise that by repeating the words "hot arab women" that you are reinforcing the bias of the ads on this page? And the more you mention hot arab women, the more ads containing the terms hot, or arab, or women will appear. I think it would be a good idea not to mention any of those words...hot or arab or women...any more.

                                🤣

                                Shame, the aim was a bit too much off. Next time use laser guided shoes.

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                                  ehaflett
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                                  @jackson said:

                                  ...hot arab women. 😕

                                  STOP SAYING THE WORD!

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                                    fella77
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                                    Just to voice an unpopular opinion, I HATE Bush and his policies, I was against the war in Iraq, and took allot of sh** for it from people. I voted for Obama and I can't wait for him to take over and have Bush go back to kicking tumbleweeds in bumf**k Texas since thats the only thing he is good at. But that being said, he is still my president, still represents my country and as funny as the video is, it still makes me mad that he had two shoes thrown at him...I am glad this guy got beat down for what he did..I was pissed that the secret service let him get the second shoe thrown before they tackled him and put him in a choke hold. Last time I checked, throwing stuff at someone isn't considered an act of free speech. I'm sure there will be statues and shrines set up for this guy all over Iraq, now that he is a hero...as we speak, there is a crappy mural of him being painted on the side of some filthy building. When he dies he can line up for his 100 virgins with all the courageous suicide bombers.

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                                      sepo
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                                      David that is quite mean 😲

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                                        fella77
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                                        @sepo said:

                                        David that is quite mean 😲

                                        Maybe so Sid....I agree with everything said about how we don't belong there and that we should have never invaded the country in the first place. What can I say other than regardless of who is president I love my country and I for one aren't going to put this guy up on a pedestal no matter how much I dislike Bush. I want nothing more than for every American to be out of that country, which it seems the Iraqis want too.

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                                          sepo
                                          last edited by

                                          In all honesty no one is putting him on pedestal,,,but have him dead ...hmmm. We had a guy here some years ago throwing egg at John Major(Priminister before Tony Blair). The guy was ordered to pay for cleaning his suit...the end of story.

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                                            linea
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                                            With respect for each others opinions maybe it's time to let this thread die and just enjoy christmas.

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