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  • I Offline
    ilay7k
    last edited by 4 Nov 2008, 15:42

    Дмитрий спасибо!
    Увидел про вас на блоге Джима Фолтца.

    Thank you!

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      Dmitry Ushakov
      last edited by 4 Nov 2008, 17:18

      @dtrarch said:

      I would have expected that the upper segment that was edited would affect the related face and the object would stay in place not rotate and distort/displace.
      Also the distortion did not occur on an adjacent face that was edited in a similar way.

      dtr,

      Thank you for these explanations - we'll definitely take them into account to improve the behavior.

      @dtrarch said:

      As this is segment driven how would groups and components be parametric without opening same ?

      We have some ideas to deal with grouped entities and plan to implement them in the next releases. E.g. point-to-point distance and other driving dimension could be used to position the group w.r.t. other entities. We can also scale the group to satisfy the dimensions. If you have in mind a particular parametric scenario with a group, please share it with us.

      @dtrarch said:

      A convert to SU mode dimensions & back to DD would be very useful too.
      It was our first thought when we started the development of this plugin. Unfortunately the built-in SU dimensions are not accessible at Ruby API level.

      @dtrarch said:

      2d for layout seems best use for the beta iteration.
      I don't see what you mean. Could you please describe this in more details?

      Thank you very much for these ideas of functional enhancement!

      Sincerely yours,
      Dmitry Ushakov
      Director of Product Management
      LEDAS Ltd.

      http://www.DrivingDimensions.com - parametric plugins for SketchUp and Rhino

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        Dmitry Ushakov
        last edited by 4 Nov 2008, 17:20

        @ilay7k said:

        Дмитрий спасибо!
        Увидел про вас на блоге Джима Фолтца.

        И Вам спасибо за интерес!
        А Джим действительно нас первый заметил. И сделал это несколько раньше, чем нам того хотелось 😄

        Thank you!

        Sincerely yours,
        Dmitry Ushakov
        Director of Product Management
        LEDAS Ltd.

        http://www.DrivingDimensions.com - parametric plugins for SketchUp and Rhino

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          dtrarch
          last edited by 4 Nov 2008, 17:42

          Dmitry

          2d lines can be used to generate 3d walls and as reference for plan development too.
          (Also one can convert lines to construction lines and vice-versa with existing scripts for grid and reference use.)

          Parametric line adjustment when developing design schemes is very useful.

          A constraint to retain the angle at corners would be helpful in this regard.
          (a lock corner/angle/geometry function perhaps)

          dtr

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            linea
            last edited by 6 Nov 2008, 12:25

            Thanks. Great ruby.

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              Dmitry Ushakov
              last edited by 5 Dec 2008, 12:25

              Hello everybody!

              We have recently released the second preliminary version (Driving Dimensions 0.2) of our free plugin.

              New:

              • Support of SketchUp 7 (backward compatibility with SketchUp 6)
              • Driving distances (between two vertices, two parallel edges, between a vertex and an edge)
              • Driving planar angles (between adjacent edges sharing a common face)

              Improved:

              • Setting and changing only one circle/arc radius for a cylindrical surface now does not make a conic
              • Robustness on large models

              You are welcome to use it!
              For detailed description, new video and the plugin itself please visit http://www.DrivingDimensions.com

              Sincerely yours,
              Dmitry Ushakov
              Director of Product Management
              LEDAS Ltd.

              http://www.DrivingDimensions.com - parametric plugins for SketchUp and Rhino

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                EarthMover
                last edited by 5 Dec 2008, 19:52

                Thanks for this!

                3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                Content Creator at Skapeup

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                  Dmitry Ushakov
                  last edited by 24 Dec 2008, 13:56

                  Hello everybody!

                  We have just released the version 0.3 of our Driving Dimensions plugin for Google SketchUp 6 and 7. Don't hesitate to test the new functionality during forthcoming season holidays: driving angles between arbitrary 3D edges, zero-valued distances and fixation constraints. We have also prepared several funny models with Driving Dimensions to let you enjoy the plugin. Please visit http://www.DrivingDimensions.com to download the new version.

                  Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

                  Sincerely yours,
                  Dmitry Ushakov
                  Director of Product Management
                  LEDAS Ltd.

                  http://www.DrivingDimensions.com - parametric plugins for SketchUp and Rhino

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                    Gaieus
                    last edited by 24 Dec 2008, 14:08

                    Hi Dmitry and thanks for the heads-up!

                    Merry Christmas to you as well (although there's still two weeks until that 😉 )

                    Gai...

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                      dtrarch
                      last edited by 24 Dec 2008, 16:57

                      Merry Christmas to you too Dmitry

                      Driving Dimensons is a real and special Christmas present and thank you.
                      A small one from the USA for all to enjoy. ☀

                      dtr Architect
                      aka Dave #2Christmas Star 2008-23.jpg

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                        Dmitry Ushakov
                        last edited by 12 Jan 2009, 05:48

                        Hello again!

                        We have noticed that some SketchUp users do not completely understand the added value of the Driving Dimensions plugin, since they use the built-in tools for dimension modification (Scale, Tape Measure, Dynamic Components). But the Driving Dimensions plugin really opens up new possibilities of parametric design in SketchUp. To overcome this misunderstanding, we have answered typical questions about Driving Dimensions and put the corresponding FAQ at our web site.

                        You are welcome to comment these questions or to ask additional ones!

                        Sincerely yours,
                        Dmitry Ushakov
                        Director of Product Management
                        LEDAS Ltd.

                        http://www.DrivingDimensions.com - parametric plugins for SketchUp and Rhino

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                          thomthom
                          last edited by 12 Jan 2009, 08:50

                          That FAQ look quite nice. I have to admit that I wasn't all to sure what the plugin was when I first heard about it and looked on the website.

                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            peweuk
                            last edited by 12 Jan 2009, 12:41

                            I saw this and thought it could be the answer to a particular parametric problem where lines of a component needed to be 'fixed' when scaling, but I am having a problem with it and hope someone can assist by telling me where I am going wrong.

                            Here is an image of an arched rail. The dimensions are shown for the total length of the rail and the 'driving dimensions'.

                            1.jpg

                            I then stretch it by a factor of 2, and it has stretched OK, and as expected has left the 'Driving Dimensions' in the original position.

                            2.jpg

                            BUT - when I fix the dimensions the panel is resized again to the inside position of the original Driving Dimensions (ie 100mm on either end) resulting in it being 200mm shorter overall, and 100mm along the X axis from its origin.

                            3.jpg

                            Any thoughts anyone??

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                            • GaieusG Offline
                              Gaieus
                              last edited by 12 Jan 2009, 12:47

                              Well, what it apparently does is that it derives those 100-100 cms from the ends not from the insides (further stretching the arch). Certainly diagnosing what happens is not a solution...

                              Gai...

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                                Dmitry Ushakov
                                last edited by 14 Jan 2009, 16:11

                                Hello peweuk,

                                Thank you for this example!

                                @peweuk said:

                                BUT - when I fix the dimensions the panel is resized again to the inside position of the original Driving Dimensions (ie 100mm on either end) resulting in it being 200mm shorter overall, and 100mm along the X axis from its origin.

                                Any thoughts anyone??

                                What do you mean saying "I fix the dimensions"? If you selected the "Recalculate Model With Driving Dimension" toolDr_di_recalculate.gif
                                then the behavior is expected: after the stretch your driving dimensions are violated (the real distances are both equal to 200mm), so the model has to be updated to satisfy the value you set (100mm). If you don't want the overall dimension (1000mm) to be changed, just set it as a driving dimension. But please note that the arc itself won't be changed automatically, so the solution probably won't satisfy you. We plan to improve the arc/circle treatment in the forthcoming versions of our plugin.

                                Sincerely yours,
                                Dmitry Ushakov
                                Director of Product Management
                                LEDAS Ltd.

                                http://www.DrivingDimensions.com - parametric plugins for SketchUp and Rhino

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                                  peweuk
                                  last edited by 14 Jan 2009, 16:17

                                  @dmitry ushakov said:

                                  We plan to improve the arc/circle treatment in the forthcoming versions of our plugin.

                                  That's good news.

                                  One other question.

                                  I have tried to set the 'Driving Dimensions' inside a component, but so far have not found a way to do this.

                                  Is this possible and if so how do I do it.

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                                    Dmitry Ushakov
                                    last edited by 14 Jan 2009, 17:09

                                    @peweuk said:

                                    I have tried to set the 'Driving Dimensions' inside a component, but so far have not found a way to do this.

                                    Is this possible and if so how do I do it.

                                    No, it is not possible for the moment. Driving Dimensions are allowed only for ungrouped entities. But again, the support of components is in our 'todo' list. Thank you for this question - we will add it to the FAQ.

                                    Sincerely yours,
                                    Dmitry Ushakov
                                    Director of Product Management
                                    LEDAS Ltd.

                                    http://www.DrivingDimensions.com - parametric plugins for SketchUp and Rhino

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                                      peweuk
                                      last edited by 14 Jan 2009, 18:17

                                      @dmitry ushakov said:

                                      But again, the support of components is in our 'todo' list.

                                      Something else to look forward to.

                                      Driving Dimensions inside Dynamic Components would be very powerful.

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                                      • GaieusG Offline
                                        Gaieus
                                        last edited by 14 Jan 2009, 18:20

                                        You can always "Save as" your component, work on it as a plain SU file then reload (well, I know, workaround... 😒 )

                                        Gai...

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                                          Dmitry Ushakov
                                          last edited by 2 Feb 2009, 17:05

                                          Hello everybody!

                                          Driving Dimensions version 0.4 was released today. This plugin for SketchUp 6/7 runs on Windows 2000/XP/Vista.
                                          So what's new in 0.4?

                                          • a new kind of driving dimensions: vertex-face distance,
                                          • non-rigid arc curves,
                                          • improved Undo functionality

                                          Models with arcs (like one recently presented by peweuk in this thread) are now solved correctly: you can change any distance. As an example I give you an animated GIF with a triumphal arch - you can edit everything in this model with parameters.
                                          Triumphal Arch with Driving Dimensions
                                          Find this and other sample models at http://drivingdimensions.com/SketchUp/samples.php.
                                          Download Driving Dimensions 0.4 at http://drivingdimensions.com/SketchUp/download.php.
                                          Read full press release at http://drivingdimensions.com/news.php?num=5.

                                          Enjoy our plugin and feel free to share your comments or suggestions with us!

                                          Sincerely yours,
                                          Dmitry Ushakov
                                          Director of Product Management
                                          LEDAS Ltd.

                                          http://www.DrivingDimensions.com - parametric plugins for SketchUp and Rhino

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