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    • free agentF Offline
      free agent
      last edited by

      Your on a roll Coen, why to knock em down 🀣

      you gotta love sketchup πŸ‘

      http:i167.photobucket.comalbumsu143FreeAgent84bug.gif

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      • Mike LuceyM Offline
        Mike Lucey
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        @unknownuser said:

        great,.. we got the new hyper-announcement promoting Sketchup 7 blatantly, and guess what,.. we can't post to disagree with things like

        @mike lucey said:

        I think Layout has now grown up and will be adopted by many
        professionals with a need to communicate their design ideas
        to clients.
        Snap out of it ,... only a fraction of people use Layout, (and will ever use it) people need editing freedom that Layout can't provide!
        I still have not seen a proper layout presentation, in the years since the first release of Layout, but I've seen many more that a couple using the CAD->Sketchup->Photoshop workflow, that include character, wow-factor, and individuality. I never managed to see Layout in this picture or produce these outcomes as much as I tried.

        PS: I'd be very positive about this release if it weren't to cost me anything to upgrade.
        I suppose being beta testers you have the new version for free. Then you try to convince the rest of the people that the new release is ok. That sucks where I am from.

        George,

        Of course you can disagree as much as you please. Whatever gave you
        the idea that you could not?

        As regards Layout2, have you actually spent any time checking out the
        new version?

        In the past, Beta Testers have been given an upgrade license and sometimes
        even a T-Shirt after spending quite a few hours / days testing the product.
        On the other hand GSU got this version down pat in a very stable edition
        and their was little to complain about, not withstanding the obvious missing
        items.

        I'm not trying to convince anyone that V7 is okay. All I'm saying is that it
        might be a good idea to give things a good work out before ranting on and
        on and on and on. We all fully realise what is not there and should be!

        George, I really think you are working yourself up far too much. Its like
        things have not turned out exactly like you wished and you are striking
        out against Google and now me πŸ‘Š . Am I not entitled to have my
        opinion and advise members?

        Please tell me what is the point in copying your correspondence with other
        3D software developers? This also go for others that are threatening to
        move to other software. If this is what you guys have in mind just go
        ahead and do it and let the rest of us get on with SketchUp V7 and not
        to forget LayOut2 πŸ‘

        Mike

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        • M Offline
          mpowell1234567890
          last edited by

          Cool, thanks for Sketchup 7. Love it a lot. β˜€ 😎

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          • P Offline
            paulside
            last edited by

            I know that Layout is meant to be a presentation tool to display models created in Sketchup and looking at Layout 2 there have indeed been big improvements to enable this,

            But does nobody at Sketchup understand the need for a set of simple basic Cad design tools that can be used within Layout to convey details that may not be related to the actual model, but related to the project as a whole,

            There are a whole lot of current and more importantly potential users out here just waiting for this.

            Ah Well, we'll just have to live in hope for Sketchup 8.

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            • StinkieS Offline
              Stinkie
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              Just a bit of clarification.

              @unknownuser said:

              @unknownuser said:

              1. handle high poly count.

              One of SketchUp's lead developers, John Bacus, has actually asked users at Basecamp exactly what this means. High poly support when orbiting, when modeling, with or without inference.
              You see everybody whining about this feature but no one comes with any specifics and when they are asked for them no one replies. So by all means, SPECIFY what you mean with high poly support.

              ... huh? Coen doesn't know what we mean if we 'whine' about high poly support?

              @unknownuser said:

              @unknownuser said:

              Every other modeler worth its weight is handling millions and millions of poly's and maybe choking, not SU........it chokes on hundreds of thousands! Come on!

              Yes Scott, but the fact of the matter is that those applications don't support inferencing and/or not in such a superb way.
              If I turn off Edges and Profiles I can easily handle 500.000 Faces as well. But I was earlier talking about a model with just 50K Faces in a normal inference enabled scene. When you turn off Edges and Profile the inference engine is likely to be switched off as well (though I'm not sure about this) and whatever be the case it DOES provide me with 10x higher framerate.

              ... well, whaddaya know ... he does know what it means. I'm sure John Bacus does as well. πŸ˜„

              Coen, I don't mind if you defend SU. Not at all even. But I would like you to do it without dodgy rhetorics. Pretty please?

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              • R Offline
                remus
                last edited by

                Stinkie, that is what the developers told us. I dont see any reason for not clearly defining what is meant when you say high poly support.

                http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                • Mike LuceyM Offline
                  Mike Lucey
                  last edited by

                  Paul, I agree with what you say about the need for better 2D
                  drafting capability in SU and LO2 and I believe you are right
                  in saying that such features would be welcomed by many. It
                  would in deed be a big seller for Google but I doubt SU will
                  go this route as it is my understanding that SU policy is to
                  'shake hands' rather than compete with 2D applications.

                  Still, as you say one never knows πŸ˜‰

                  Mike

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                  • StinkieS Offline
                    Stinkie
                    last edited by

                    @remus said:

                    Stinkie, that is what the developers told us. I dont see any reason for not clearly defining what is meant when you say high poly support.

                    Remus, come on.

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                    • Alan FraserA Offline
                      Alan Fraser
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                      Juan is right about installing as administrator if you are on Vista. I had problems with this during the beta. I guess that many more people are now on Vista than 2 years ago, so you may also find problems in re-installing some of the Plugins. I did, until I wrestled control of the Plugins folder back off my darned OS....even with admin priviliges.

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                      You could be entitled to compensation. Call the Pro Claimers now!

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                      • R Offline
                        remus
                        last edited by

                        Stinkie, im kind of between an NDA and a hard place, but to parphrase: do you mean better orbiting capabilities? faster modelling? do you still want inference to be on? specifics, essentially.

                        http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                        • StinkieS Offline
                          Stinkie
                          last edited by

                          @remus said:

                          Stinkie, im kind of between an NDA and a hard place, but to parphrase: do you mean better orbiting capabilities? faster modelling? do you still want inference to be on? specifics, essentially.

                          Aha. I meant: better orbiting capabilities with inferencing on. As it stands now, SU is brought to a crawl quite quickly when you import a couple of, say, nicely detailed sofas. Orbiting can be quite cumbersome in such a case. Shame, really. πŸ˜„

                          @alan fraser said:

                          Juan is right about installing as administrator if you are on Vista. I had problems with this during the beta. I guess that many more people are now on Vista than 2 years ago, so you may also find problems in re-installing some of the Plugins. I did, until I wrestled control of the Plugins folder back off my darned OS....even with admin priviliges.

                          lol. The joys of Vista. πŸ˜†

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                          • StinkieS Offline
                            Stinkie
                            last edited by

                            @burkhard said:

                            @unknownuser said:

                            @remus said:

                            Stinkie, that is what the developers told us. I dont see any reason for not clearly defining what is meant when you say high poly support.

                            Remus, come on.

                            What kind of discussions. No need to clarify anything if you are a simple user.
                            High poly support is selfexplanationed. To convert it is for professionals.
                            Hopefully you never had a ruby whish where you were forced to explain the coder how to do it. πŸ˜‰

                            Well said, Herr B. (Mind you, remus, this is not directed at you, but at the devs.)

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                            • R Offline
                              remus
                              last edited by

                              I had similar thoughts as well πŸ˜‰

                              http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                              • D Offline
                                Dik Harrison
                                last edited by

                                I haven't looked too deeply yet at the free version I down loaded, but must say that I am pleased that I can now navigate (orbit, zoom, etc.) within a fairly complex model of my home, and I don't get stuck in objects and walls, and the navigating is faster and smoother. Given that, DCs and the improved Layout (don't use it now but it seems like it will now be a valuable tool), I will definitely upgrade my Pro license.

                                Have fun...

                                Dik

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                                • david_hD Offline
                                  david_h
                                  last edited by

                                  self-explanationed
                                  sounds like a good Bush-ism! πŸ˜„

                                  If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                                  • BurkhardB Offline
                                    Burkhard
                                    last edited by

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    @remus said:

                                    Stinkie, that is what the developers told us. I dont see any reason for not clearly defining what is meant when you say high poly support.

                                    Remus, come on.

                                    What kind of discussions. No need to clarify anything if you are a simple user.
                                    High poly support is self-explanatory . To convert it is for professionals.
                                    Hopefully you never had a ruby whish where you were forced to explain the coder how to do it. πŸ˜‰

                                    [http://www.ia-plus.de(http://www.ia-plus.de)]

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                                    • BurkhardB Offline
                                      Burkhard
                                      last edited by

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      self-explanationed
                                      sounds like a good Bush-ism! πŸ˜„

                                      πŸ˜‰he,he ..so it's better to correct it. 😳

                                      [http://www.ia-plus.de(http://www.ia-plus.de)]

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                                      • P Offline
                                        paulside
                                        last edited by

                                        @mike lucey said:

                                        Paul, I agree with what you say about the need for better 2D
                                        drafting capability in SU and LO2 and I believe you are right
                                        in saying that such features would be welcomed by many. It
                                        would in deed be a big seller for Google but I doubt SU will
                                        go this route as it is my understanding that SU policy is to
                                        'shake hands' rather than compete with 2D applications.

                                        Still, as you say one never knows πŸ˜‰

                                        Mike

                                        Mike, I don't mean all singing and dancing 2D cad tools, just the sort you can get with the free CD on computer magazines, just integrated into Layout thats all. That wouldn't be so hard or cause 2D CAD wars would it? πŸ˜’

                                        anyway enough moaning now. I'm off to play with Sketchup 7

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                                        • F Offline
                                          fossa
                                          last edited by

                                          I'd say that if only one thing comes from all the posting and commenting here it is that GSU needs to develop a dialog between themselves and the pro users. Really that seems to be the heart of problem here.

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                                          • R Offline
                                            remus
                                            last edited by

                                            Rick, although i agree with most of what youve said, i think SU has moved on form its sketched based origins. It is so easy to create hugely detailed models, if only SU was faster!

                                            Larry, i have to agree. I cant help but think a huge amount of hassle could have been prevented if there was a good dialogue between developers and users.

                                            http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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