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  • M Offline
    Mr S
    last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 11:53

    Hi,

    I think this provides an excellent answer as to "why".

    @unknownuser said:

    Q: Can you tell me why we are doing this experiment? I can understand that you are hoping to reveal the origins of mass by smashing tiny particles together but what advantages (besides increase in knowledge) do you expect to obtain from this?

    @unknownuser said:

    A: Experiment is the basis of the scientific method, without which there would be no modern world as we know it.

    The quest to understand the smallest building blocks of nature and the forces that hold them together arguably began with the ancient Greeks, but it was only when we began to conduct experiments that we discovered the electron (1897), quantum mechanics (triggered by precision observations of the light emitted by elements when heated), X-rays, the atomic nucleus, radioactive decay... the list is practically endless.

    Without these experimental discoveries, and the subsequent deepening of our understanding of the Universe, there would be no electronics, no silicon chips or transistors, no medical imaging technology, no nuclear power stations, no X-rays or chemotherapy treatments for cancer... again an almost endless list.

    What this should teach us is two things. First, it is virtually impossible to deepen our understanding of Nature without experiments. Second, understanding Nature has never been a bad idea - indeed without the pioneers of the past century, our civilisation would be immeasurably poorer.

    I do not know what the continuation of this long and illustrious quest will lead to, but I would be extremely surprised if a writer called upon to defend scientific enquiry at the turn of the 22nd Century does not point to the LHC as the foundation of a hundred new technologies, each considered essential to our quality of life.

    Answer supplied by: Professor Brian Cox who is one of the LHC scientists at Cern.

    A near perfect explanation in my view.

    Oh boy, I really like this guy!

    He finishes his interview with this gem:

    @unknownuser said:

    I am in fact immensely irritated by the conspiracy theorists who spread this nonsense around and try to scare people. This non-story is symptomatic of a larger mistrust in science, particularly in the US, which includes intelligent design amongst other things.

    The only serious issue is why so many people who don't have the time or inclination to discover for themselves why this stuff is total crap have to be exposed to the opinions of these half-wits.

    Regards
    MR S

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    • G Offline
      geh4evr
      last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 12:39

      @gaieus said:

      what brought you to the SU World?

      Well, I think it was Google Earth that did that. I used to love the models from a site called Google Earth Hacks, Eventually I found out what program they used, Downloaded the Demo from @Last, and eventually bought it.

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        Gaieus
        last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 12:45

        That site still exists (I'm also a member though browse it very rarely). I also stumbled upon SU incidentally (I'm not an architect or such).

        Gai...

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        • W Offline
          watkins
          last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 12:58

          Latest news: They have beams going in both directions. So, fingers in ears!!

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            ELYSIUM
            last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 13:07

            I just want to say that although the machine is working, they are just testing to see if they can accelerate particles to the required speeds, in both ways, clockwise and counter clockwise, so far i think they will only test clockwise. The particle collisions will only happen a few months from now, so don't worry lol. We still have some more months to live, hey maybe SU7 is out before the end of the world! 😍

            Check out this funny video http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=BXzugu39pKM&feature=related

            I love this comment:
            "The end of the world BETTER happen this time. I was very disapointed when Y2K went to sh#t."

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            • D Offline
              david_h
              last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 14:34

              I'm still here by the way, so I think our fears have been for naught.

              Conspiracy theory . ..How do we know it's really down there? I mean . .who gets to see it. they faked the moon landings. couldn't they have faked this as well. they say it's 100M down. ..but IS IT???

              AND besides .. it's French . .. how reliable could it be? Any of you guys ever own a Peugeot? πŸ’š

              If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                pav_3j
                last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 14:52

                yeah i have, it never once broke down, despite being second hand, and with 100,000 on the clock.

                my fiat on the other hand, now that broke down most weeks, and it was brand new.
                bloody italians πŸ˜‰ <--- first wink i have ever used!

                pav

                Just won the 'Who is Least Competitive Championships' where trying to win will make you lose. Trying to lose makes you win which makes you lose. Not trying at all makes you lose which makes you win which makes you lose.

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                • W Offline
                  watkins
                  last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 16:20

                  A useful and informative link:

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                  BBC News - Large Hadron Collider: Guide introduction

                  Introduction to the Large Hadron Collider experiment.

                  favicon

                  (news.bbc.co.uk)

                  Regards,
                  Bob

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                  • B Offline
                    bubbalove
                    last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 17:01

                    The suicides have already begun... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26641652/

                    This really is just sad that people will by into this "big bang" theory thinking it is going to destroy the earth...

                    "Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." - Churchill

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                      david_h
                      last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 17:08

                      Suicides? Already? They didn't wait for the comet?

                      If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                        david_h
                        last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 17:59

                        Darn . ..My mom told me I was the God Particle. πŸ˜†

                        If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                          JuanV.Soler
                          last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 18:12

                          Have you seen this ?
                          Higgs boson is the name some science people have given to make God a particle.
                          well, lets see.

                          I think it has been an outrage to that bit of land.
                          27 kms of construction under that bit.
                          In the future, when next experiment comes to be done, it would be great that, we, citizens of this whole LAND, could be able to vote on favour or in des_favour.
                          Not only the goverment and the so recognised science people.

                          I dont like this experiment as you can see.
                          But I dont have any objection to it either.

                          The only point i want to make is that, for instance , this experiment could have been taking in the outsides of the earth, in the space. And be able to do it there, not here.
                          Just in case.
                          That maybe the case.

                          Really, who knows things overthere are going to be the same ?


                          Did you see that..JPG


                          God particle.JPG


                          God particle2.JPG

                          ,))),

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                            solo
                            last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 18:27

                            let me get up to speed here, we have the Father, the son, the holy spirit and now the divine particle too? πŸ˜‰

                            http://www.solos-art.com

                            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                              Marian
                              last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 18:31

                              it's ridiculous to put this experiment in space, this has less chance of destroying the earth than the atomic bomb, and that was not tested in space at all and they knew for certain that it is very destructive.And the other hand that would have been virtually impossible and would have cost hundreds of billions , which would have really been a waste of money.

                              http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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                                JuanV.Soler
                                last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 19:08

                                money does count is it ?
                                money can not justify the action.
                                it should have been investigated before under more aspects.

                                ,))),

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                                  Marian
                                  last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 19:17

                                  Some time you have to stop theorising and just go out on a limb and do it, it's what makes us human and they spent 20 years making this project possible how many more years would you have them checking calculation for a very safe procedure, it's like spending 10 days just prepairing to cut your nails.

                                  http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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                                    remus
                                    last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 19:18

                                    I dont think many countries would throw hundreds of millions of euros in to the project if there hadnt been some serious investigation first.

                                    http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                                      PeterCharles
                                      last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 19:30

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      The suicides have already begun... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26641652/
                                      This really is just sad that people will by into this "big bang" theory thinking it is going to destroy the earth...

                                      This is an example of Darwinism, clearly not fit enough to survive.
                                      (or maybe she just wouldn't marry the groom selected for her so honour dictated...._

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                                        JuanV.Soler
                                        last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 20:23

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        it's what makes us human
                                        it's like spending 10 days just prepairing to cut your nails.

                                        πŸ˜„
                                        well there are also humans who likes to cut their nails every day without waiting.
                                        I mean it is their daily_life thing they like.
                                        and so, at least, better to ask them if they do mind, no ?

                                        what i say is that it should have been consulted.

                                        ,))),

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                                          JuanV.Soler
                                          last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 20:23

                                          solo, yes. πŸ˜„

                                          ,))),

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