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    remus
    last edited by 7 Sept 2008, 16:23

    If you dont need layout or the exporters there is no difference (that i can think of) between the versions, so save your cash and buy yourself a beer (or 2.)

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      MALAISE
      last edited by 7 Sept 2008, 16:32

      Hi Tekkybot

      A lot of us use SU without professional features. LayOut and export capabilities lead to professional World. Plugins made by Ruby's Masters enhance SU in such a way, we dont need theses specific links most of the time.

      MALAISE

      La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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        solo
        last edited by 7 Sept 2008, 16:35

        And frankly unless you need layout the Pro version is not necessary as the 3d exporters are pretty lacking. Even though I use the Pro version I do not use the exporters or layout, so if the next version is not geared to our needs I will not get the pro version unless it's a free upgrade.

        There really is not enough 'meat' on the Pro version to make it a $500 option IMO.

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        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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          dylan
          last edited by 7 Sept 2008, 17:16

          What everyone else says.

          As you already stated you do not require Layout or the export features, the Pro version would be a complete waste of money offering you no real benefits to SU Free.

          http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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            pilou
            last edited by 7 Sept 2008, 19:21

            In a legal plan normally you don't right use free version for commercial purpose! 😒

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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              dylan
              last edited by 7 Sept 2008, 19:31

              I believe that was changed in version 6 Pilou.

              http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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                pilou
                last edited by 7 Sept 2008, 19:49

                @unknownuser said:

                Google SketchUp 6 is made available to you for personal or commercial use, and includes support via our SketchUp Help Center. You can also find answers, ask questions, and share your expertise on the Google SketchUp Help Group.

                from here 😉
                If so, that is a big gift! 😲

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                  Tekkybot
                  last edited by 7 Sept 2008, 20:44

                  do you think sketchup pro will be discontinued at v7 and made free to compete with microsofts buy out of caligari truespace?

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                    Alan Fraser
                    last edited by 7 Sept 2008, 23:55

                    No. It wouldn't surprise me if there were greater differences between the Pro and free versions in V7 than there are now.

                    3D Figures
                    Were you required to walk 500 miles? Were you advised to walk 500 more?
                    You could be entitled to compensation. Call the Pro Claimers now!

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                      utiler
                      last edited by 8 Sept 2008, 00:05

                      I agree Alan. Afterall, the free version is what has helped Earth become what is its, yeah?

                      purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                        johnsenior1973
                        last edited by 8 Sept 2008, 00:06

                        @alan fraser said:

                        No. It wouldn't surprise me if there were greater differences between the Pro and free versions in V7 than there are now.

                        I think the Pro version will either cease to exist with v7 or there simply has to be a huge difference between the free and Pro version. They simply cannot get away with charging around $500 for the very limited offerings they have given for v6 Pro.

                        I could see a massively enhanced SU Pro, with most of the features people whine and whine about not having, while the free version just has minor tweaks done to it.

                        But I do think it's possible that Google could scrap the Pro version altogether. I cannot imagine the Pro version brings in very much money and that money is probably a tiny amount compared to all the SU and GE development.

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                          bigstick
                          last edited by 8 Sept 2008, 06:45

                          Actually I don't think that Google will drop the 'Pro' thing. They have the same sort of arrangement with Google Earth. Also, lots of large corporations don't like to rely on free software for core functionality. I may be wrong, but I believe that the principle was that professionals would want export options for use with other applications - I'm thinking renderers in particular. Hobbyists and enthusiasts would just use the core modelling features, but professionals need interoperability with other apps.

                          It's obvious that there isn't enough difference between the free and pro versions to justify the price difference. Like Alan, I think the Pro version for SU7 will have a lot more features for the money rather than abandon the principle altogether.

                          Personally, if I were Google, I would just have retained the previous version as the free application, but just added support for the latest file format.

                          However, we won't have too long to wait for SU7 5 guess.

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                            utiler
                            last edited by 8 Sept 2008, 22:36

                            I suspect we may have a program with 'discipline specifc extensions'

                            Like vectorworks...

                            SU 7.0 Free
                            SU 7.0 Pro Architectural
                            SU 7.0 Pro Landcsape
                            Su 7.0 Pro GIS
                            ......

                            purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                              plot-paris
                              last edited by 9 Sept 2008, 09:39

                              I would like to see the Pro version loaded with features, that actually belong in a pro software, but are not needed for simple modelling.

                              Im thinking about tools like a proper referencing-option, with referencing of files several levels deep. makes perfect sense for a huge project, but is not necessary if you model an extension for your garage or focus on product design.

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                                brodie
                                last edited by 9 Sept 2008, 14:06

                                I think what's being overlooked here is that there is one very important feature besides Layout and 3d exporters that comes w/ the pro version of SU. I think of SkethUp Pro as a statement about myself. It tells people I'm important and affluent. My friends find me to be more cool after learning that I have the Pro version of SU. SU Pro heaps burning coals upon the heads of my enemies.

                                It's the same reason people buy big diamond rings, Nike shirts, and scuba gear.

                                -Brodie

                                steelblue http://www.steelbluellc.com

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                                  Alan Fraser
                                  last edited by 9 Sept 2008, 14:21

                                  Well, they'll certainly need to do something substantial with the Pro version of SU7. The absence of 3D export options is no limitation whatsoever.
                                  There are free programs like Vivaty Studio that will import kmz/kml (exportable from the free version) and export them in more 3D formats than you can shake a stick at, including Truespace, SoftImage, Lightwave and even stl.

                                  There's virtually no incentive at the moment to cough up any money at all.

                                  3D Figures
                                  Were you required to walk 500 miles? Were you advised to walk 500 more?
                                  You could be entitled to compensation. Call the Pro Claimers now!

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                                    dale
                                    last edited by 9 Sept 2008, 17:29

                                    Isn't Sandbox only in the Pro version?

                                    Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                                      johnsenior1973
                                      last edited by 9 Sept 2008, 17:36

                                      @dale said:

                                      Isn't Sandbox only in the Pro version?

                                      It's in the free version as well.

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                                        brodie
                                        last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 03:06

                                        @johnsenior1973 said:

                                        @dale said:

                                        Isn't Sandbox only in the Pro version?

                                        It's in the free version as well.

                                        Yeah, I think that went free w/ version 6 but I could be wrong on that one.

                                        -Brodie

                                        steelblue http://www.steelbluellc.com

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                                          Gaieus
                                          last edited by 10 Sept 2008, 07:42

                                          What went free with v6 are basically

                                          • sandbox

                                          • print to scale (and other print) options - in v5 it was limited to "fit to page"

                                          • 2d graphic export optiions - in v5 it was limited to screen resolution

                                          • animation export

                                          • (afaik) the ability to use rbs plugins
                                            What is still "missing":

                                          • Export models in 3DS, DWG, DXF, OBJ, XSI, VRML, and FBX file formats

                                          • LayOut (and lately StyleBuilder)
                                            Location tab in the Model info (Win only - funnily the Mac version has it - but Jim wrote a plugin for that already)
                                            The little
                                            http://download.sketchup.com/sketchuphelp/gsu6_win/Content/Z-images/A-Welcome/welcome-Plus.jpg
                                            image however appears all over in the SU Guide according to v5. Google forgot to update this part of the guide (and a whole lot of things are also missing there - just think about intersect with selected or intersect with context which came with SU6).

                                          Gai...

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