IPhone and Open GL

bellwells · 10 Jun 2008, 23:52

This new iPhone has Open GL. I wonder if SU will run on this baby. This thing is a miniature laptop with a phone attached. My Lord, I want one.

igor · 11 Jun 2008, 01:00

i dont know if you really can run SU on the new iphone, but if you could it would probably be really annoying to use anyway. that would be for the serious SU addict, who cant go more than two hours with out using SU. (you know you're an SU addict when... you use SU on your iphone so that you can use SU when and where ever you want)

sorry if the above describes you, but thats just my view on the matter.

bellwells · 11 Jun 2008, 01:43

Good point. No, I'm not an addict; I just love the product. I guess without a mouse it would be difficult.....unless some programmer could find a way to use the accelerometer in the iPhone in combination with pressing a key to manipulate a SU model. Or use the touch screen..... Hmmmmm.

I understand Apple's software development kit is robust enough to probably do this. I can't imagine actually creating a model, only viewing, orbiting, etc.

remus · 11 Jun 2008, 05:20

I tihnk itd be good fun personally, of course youd never be able to create a great masterpiece on it, but i reckon youd probably be good to do small things on it.

Pretty much, itd probably be a gimmick, but whats wrong with a gimmick?

monsterzero · 11 Jun 2008, 06:58

But you know what would be cool? Showing your models in 3D on your phone. I have renders on my phone to show people what I do, but if you could navigate your model/scene on the phone that would be pretty interesting to have.

tbd · 11 Jun 2008, 07:14

it all depends on how much work Google wants to do
openGL ES, which is used on mobiles, is a bit different than openGL we use on desktops, so it needs some work for a port.

... but a model viewer would be nice (and not that much work compared to SU port)

bellwells · 11 Jun 2008, 15:24

Or...utilize a program like "Go To My PC" to access your home computer. From there, you could open any model and display/manipulate it.

plot-paris · 11 Jun 2008, 16:02

perfect would be the other way arround: not a SketchUp version for the iPhone...

an iPhone version for SketchUp! - with a 24" widescreen display!

although recieving a call would be rather difficult

igor · 11 Jun 2008, 16:45

@ plot paris

i think the idea of only dispaying and not creating you model on the phone is a great idea. like use one finger on the screen to orbit and two fingers moving together to pan and the ususal "pinching" manuver to zoom. that could work. some one go tell apple.

remus · 11 Jun 2008, 16:47

If youve got 50 quid/100 dollars spare you can have a go at it yourself, with the iphone SDK.

dylan · 11 Jun 2008, 18:22

Well I have ordered one of the new phones anyway now the price of these new 3G ones have dropped so much. I think it is a fantastic piece of kit

plot-paris · 12 Jun 2008, 09:43

@plot-paris said:

an iPhone version for SketchUp! - with a 24" widescreen display!

apple may not have focused on the huge market of SketchUp Pro users yet - but it is only a matter of time...
first ideas about the size of the new iSketch tablet-pc

pav_3j · 12 Jun 2008, 10:42

@unknownuser said:

Well I have ordered one of the new phones anyway now the price of these new 3G ones have dropped so much. I think it is a fantastic piece of kit

juat ordered mine too.

i knew it was a good idea to wait and see what the second gen iphone was like, i currently have an o2 xda orbit, and the iphone couldn't really come close to that as it has gps, but now the iphone has gps, and the price has dropped, i just can't justify not getting one!

pav

Alan Fraser · 12 Jun 2008, 11:31

Mmm! Still nothing like enough to tempt me away from my BlackBerry Curve. WiFi is fine...but only if you are always within range. At present, I can pick up an email, Gtalk, text or surf the Net unlimited virtually anywhere....certainly when I'm nowhere near any WiFi hotspot.
I think Apple still has a huge distance to travel to catch up with Nokia and RIM in terms of business users. Nokia has something like a 45% market share of smartphone users, with BlackBerry running second (and catching up fast) and Apple way down at around 5%.
The reasons for this are fairly simple. Apple tends to concentrate on fancy UI, whereas the other two concentrate more on actual communication. The new BB 3320 will allow you to seamlessly make voice calls over WiFi, effectively putting an end to voice and texting limits...as long as you pay the small extra charge for unlimited surfing
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,138568/article.html
It also has GPS, which recently proved a godsend when I needed to exit the M1 motorway in a hurry.(even though I was using a TomTom at the time.)

I think additional features on a phone, like multimedia, Net/email, camera, GPS and organizer make great sense, but actual apps like SU really need something altogether larger....not laptop size, but maybe as big as some of the MP4 movie players....something that will fit in a jacket hip pocket rather than a shirt breast pocket or pants pocket.

dylan · 12 Jun 2008, 12:20

You don't have to be on wi-fi to pick up email or surf the net on an iphone, it works anywhere.
I don't think you can really expect the iphone to take massive parts of the market in such a short period. Nokia and Blackberry have been operating in this sector for years and have far more experience.

The iPhone will fulfill my requirements and imo looks far slicker than anything else around at the moment.

remus · 12 Jun 2008, 12:36

Alan, i think the iphone can (or at least certainly will be able to) do almost everything you mentioned there, and for considerably lower cost in a lot of cases.

Concerning the calls over WiFi, ive got a feeling skype are doing a version for the iphone, and eevn if theyre not theres already a cracked version for it.

pav_3j · 12 Jun 2008, 12:50

@unknownuser said:

You don't have to be on wi-fi to pick up email or surf the net on an iphone, it works anywhere.
I don't think you can really expect the iphone to take massive parts of the market in such a short period. Nokia and Blackberry have been operating in this sector for years and have far more experience.

The iPhone will fulfill my requirements and imo looks far slicker than anything else around at the moment.

again couldn't agree more.

i had a blackberry, and found that i never fully utilised all of it's functions, then i got my xda, and it is near enough perfect bar the fact i have to use a stylus, the new iphone seems like perfect middle ground to me.

plus women will like you if you get one.

ha ha

pav

Alan Fraser · 12 Jun 2008, 13:02

Remus, no it won't. That's why I bought a BlackBerry. Apple isn't a patch on RIM for business users.

For £30/month I get effectively unlimited voice, texting, surfing, Gmail and email from absolutely anywhere...even with no WiFi or O2 signal. The BB even came free on that tariff. BlackBerries can also communicate directly with one another via their PIN numbers via the Blackberry Network, without incurring any voice minutes at all.
That's why I'm waiting to upgrade to the BB Thunder in September.
The fact that the new BBs can voice over WiFi makes apps like Skype totally redundant on a smartphone.

remus · 12 Jun 2008, 13:34

Just to be clear im talking about the iphone 2 here. And im positive it can do everythin you mentioned in your previous post (except gtalk, although i didnt know what it was untill i looke dit up 5 mins ago, my fault.)

monsterzero · 12 Jun 2008, 15:40

In my opinion the iPhone is the StechUp of the mobile phone world. I've had other smartphones and the iPhone has been the best by far (never had a BB). I find it so much a joy to use that I don't really care about 2.0. I do most of my emailing on it and in fact this post as well. Its not just pretty it's super fun to use, I have no complaints.

As for GPS I wouldn't mind having it, but I can do what I need with the "current location" tech. I never print out any directions ever. I'd rather not have a seperate GPS anyway.