Toolbars ARGH!

krash88 · 5 Jun 2008, 16:27

Does anyone else have problems getting the toolbars to go where you want them? I've been trying for months now to rearange my toolbars and some just refuse to snap beside of something else leaving my viewport smaller than it could be. If there is any fix that anyone knows of or a workaround that doesn't involve floating my tools then please let me know and thanks in advance for any help!

juju · 5 Jun 2008, 19:18

I have this problem as well. I've been able to come to some sort of solution by dragging the toolbar to just above (and over the the one just to the left of it) where I want it. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Normally takes me 30 minutes to get the toolbar the way I want it. I hope GSU team has been able to solve the problems with the toolbars (not being able to lock, docking problems) by the next update.

solo · 5 Jun 2008, 19:19

+1

I will be sure to mention it if I get an audience with anyone of importance at base camp.

Frederik · 5 Jun 2008, 19:27

+1
But just like Juju, I've also managed to solve it - at least temporary...
But I had the problem again today, after having installed a new ruby...
(Not that I blame the ruby - but that da.. tool-bar wouldn't let me place things where I want them to be..!!)

Jim · 5 Jun 2008, 20:01

What I tried, and it seems to have helped, is go into the registry editor and delete everything that contains "ToolBars-User"

What this does is reset all the toolbar locations, and (at least for me) allowed me to position them easier.

If you try this, you'll want to close SketchUp first.

Note I am not recommending this, but it helped in my case. Running Windows XP Pro SP3.

lapx · 6 Jun 2008, 04:44

Yes, and its very annoying. If this was autobad i would be besides myself

cloverleaf · 6 Jun 2008, 05:09

im also having this problem, will it be possible to create a ruby like the sutool but instead of showing just text it can show toolbars like the one made by Jim Foltz?

Matt666 · 6 Jun 2008, 05:44

+1

HFM · 6 Jun 2008, 07:02

To get them in place is one thing,... to keep them there is an other!

Would be very usefull if someone created a 'Lock Toolbar' ruby...

Jim?

pav_3j · 6 Jun 2008, 08:20

i have no problem arranging my toolbars, but i do have a problem with them not staying put.
the first time i boot up my pc at work, and open sketchup, it says that it has to terminate, and i can't open sketchup until i restart the computer.
when it has finally rebooted, and i can open sketchup i have to re-arrange my toolbars again.

it's starting to become a bit of a pain (he says after 2 months)

any suggestions?

pav

juju · 6 Jun 2008, 09:40

pav, sounds like you have more serious problems to sort out than getting toolbars the way you want them (and have them stay that way). I don't envy you as troubleshooting can be a long an tedious task.

Jim · 6 Jun 2008, 10:09

@cloverleaf said:

im also having this problem, will it be possible to create a ruby like the sutool but instead of showing just text it can show toolbars like the one made by Jim Foltz?

It is possible to put the same buttons in a WebDialog as are in a Toolbar. Maybe that is the solution.

Of course, WebDialogs are not dock-able, and would larger margins (take up more space) than a Toolbar.

krash88 · 6 Jun 2008, 11:32

@jim said:

What I tried, and it seems to have helped, is go into the registry editor and delete everything that contains "ToolBars-User"

What this does is reset all the toolbar locations, and (at least for me) allowed me to position them easier.

If you try this, you'll want to close SketchUp first.

Note I am not recommending this, but it helped in my case. Running Windows XP Pro SP3.

Thanks! That seems to have done the trick.(at least until SU mucks it up again) I wonder if SU thinks a toolbar is still there even when it's hidden some times. The next time this happens I'm going to check the the MRUDockID key for each hidden toolbar and see if this is the case. Invisible bars should have a DockID of 0.

Also another idea, for all of us that have to constantly rearrange bars after a bugsplat, resolution change, or plain old SU going nuts, once you have them the way you want them, close SU and export the whole SketchUp6 key in the registry to a file on your desk top. Then if they get screwed up, just close SU and import the registry file. Just an idea...
Thanks again!

derryatlanta · 6 Jun 2008, 12:37

+1

I have the same irritations with scattered toolbars every time I fire up Sketch Up and have to drag them around to where I want them every time...I'd love to see a fix/patch or ruby for this.
Anyone know how to set Sketch Up to open to maximum screen view every time when it opens instead of opening to a squashed or mininmized) view? It seems to exacerbate the scattered toolbars problem.

Cheers, all.

Nigel

pav_3j · 6 Jun 2008, 14:37

@unknownuser said:

pav, sounds like you have more serious problems to sort out than getting toolbars the way you want them (and have them stay that way). I don't envy you as troubleshooting can be a long an tedious task.

yeah i figured as much.
ah well, it works so far, just means i have to get to work 5 mins earlier in order to start in time.

he he

pav

dtrarch · 6 Jun 2008, 15:37

Hi All

I had the same PIA too and just gave up until this thread drove me to give it another shot to try to fix.

I use dual monitors and stick most of the Window/Menus on #2 and they would never stay put on SU re-boot.

Stuff you may not have figured out.
Some of the menus are hardwired to stack on top of each others and will refuse to tile down.
[Materials]is the only that seems to allow other menus to tile down below and not move around on SU re-boot and it seems also be hard wired in code.
The sequence below does seem to stay put OK.

[Outliner][Layers][Materials]
-------------------- [Styles]
-------------------- [Shadow Settings]
-------------------- [Components]

I also set other menus on the Active Screen Toolbar (monitor #1)and they do stay put too.

[file loaded][SketchUp Pro][menu][menu] etc.

Just save in a template and at least on the PC it seems bullet proof.
Check it out.

It's Friday here and time for some donuts.

dtr

Jim · 8 Jun 2008, 12:07

@krash88 said:

Also another idea, for all of us that have to constantly rearrange bars after a bugsplat, resolution change, or plain old SU going nuts, once you have them the way you want them, close SU and export the whole SketchUp6 key in the registry to a file on your desk top. Then if they get screwed up, just close SU and import the registry file. Just an idea...
Thanks again!

I keep trying to save and restore the toolbars by exporting and merging the SketchUp6 registy keys, but it has never worked for me. Has anyone been successful doing it this way? If so, it could be made into an automated plugin.

Squid tamer · 8 Jun 2008, 16:09

.exe's can edit the registry, right?

What if one replaced their Sketchup icon with a small program that put all of the toolbars in their correct positions, and then opened Sketchup for you?

 I have no idea if this would work or not, and I'm no programer. Now's as good as a time to start as any other, I guess.

cloverleaf · 9 Jun 2008, 08:45

making the toolbars smaller kinda a workaround for the problematic toolbars

MALAISE · 11 Jul 2008, 06:34

Anyone, a clear idea about theses quite annoying displacements .??
(Playing with the Registry is not always safety, even with backUp )

Thanks for tricks ( Of course , I already rode the former posts )
MALAISE