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    • K Offline
      kwistenbiebel
      last edited by

      Hi Stinkie,

      Yeah, I am using bootcamp and have a dual boot.
      The macos X goes on the small default (320 Gb) drive, and Vista64 is installed on a separate larger one(750Gb).

      I set the system to boot Windows by default. If I would need MacosX I push the power button while holding the alt key which brings me to the bootscreen.

      Really, no hickups with Vista64 yet and all my apps (older 32 bit ones included, run smoothly).
      The only thing that doesn't work is my old A0 pen plotter (HP 755CM), because Hewlett Packard stopped support for that device and there isn't a 64 bit driver available.

      On the other hand, my 12 year old A4 inkjet printer (also HP) DOES work
      ...Go imagine 😄

      As an advice I would recommend everyone who buys a new PC (or Mac) to go for a 64 bit version, as 32 bit will soon be a thing of the past.
      The knowledge that 32 bit doesn't support more than 3 GB RAM is prove of that, as new PCs will demand more and more RAM. (Even standard laptops these days already have 3GB installed).

      About me working 100% on windows and not on MacosX: it's a personal choice but I am so used to windows that I don't see the benefit of going MacosX...
      The bad press Windows has gotten about Vista is exagerated imho (unless you are a network administrator at a really big firm.)

      For personal use and small business use, there is absolutely nothing wrong with Vista (or Xp).

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      • StinkieS Offline
        Stinkie
        last edited by

        Allrighty. I'm gonna get me Ultimate, I think. Which one are you running?

        And as for the whole Mac OS/Windows thing - I just choose depending on my needs. Debating over which one's better, I gladly leave to parka wearing geeks. 💚

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        • K Offline
          kwistenbiebel
          last edited by

          Vista business is installed but I don't think it really matters which version you buy .
          (Who knows the differences anyway 😄)

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          • StinkieS Offline
            Stinkie
            last edited by

            The main difference, I think, is that both Ultimate and Business support + 8 GB of RAM, whereas the other 64 bit versions don't.

            Not that I'm gonna install more than 8 GB at the moment, but you never know what the future brings. Me thinks I'm leaving the office early today (boss is out anyway). Gotta go to HCW in Schoten. 💚 They've got Ultimate for 319 €. http://www.hcw.be/p.aspx?p=H6136

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            • R Offline
              remus
              last edited by

              Thats a bit lame really, that other versions dont support more than 8GB of Ram, as i would have thought half the point in getting a 64 bit machine is so you can cram it full of ram (if your loaded, of course.)

              http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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              • StinkieS Offline
                Stinkie
                last edited by

                Yup, that's lame indeed. And as for prices: that's where I'd choose Windows over Mac any day. 💚

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                • K Offline
                  kwistenbiebel
                  last edited by

                  My God, Is that true? Only 8GB supported in the other versions?
                  Thank god I chose Business as I already have 8GB installed and hope to increase the RAM even more in the future when it would be needed...

                  (By the way, don't buy Mac RAM...there are other brands 3 times cheaper with the exact same features.)

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                    Stinkie
                    last edited by

                    Really? Which ones?

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                    • StinkieS Offline
                      Stinkie
                      last edited by

                      I must correct myself: Home Basic 64 supports 8 gb, Home Premium supports 16 gb, and Ultimate, Business and Enterprise support + 128 gb.

                      So Home Premium 64 might be enough for me.

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                        remus
                        last edited by

                        But how will you ever be able to do 50,000x50,000 renders with only 16gb of ram? You wont stand a chance stinkie, upfrade, you know you want to 😄

                        http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                        • StinkieS Offline
                          Stinkie
                          last edited by

                          Well, Remus, I went shopping, and finally decided upon getting Ultimate, so ... 💚
                          Anyway, I think 8 gb will last me a while.

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                          • StinkieS Offline
                            Stinkie
                            last edited by

                            Mornin' SU folk!

                            I tried to install Vista Ultimate 64 bit on my Mac Pro last night, but: no dice. The 32 bit version (which I tried also) installed just fine, but the 64 one ... This is what happened: I started up the Bootcamp Assistant and made me a nice Windows partition. When that was done, the computer rebooted to start the actual installation process (the Vista cd-rom was already in the drive, of course). When it did, it showed me a nice black sceen, with nice white letters on it:

                            Select CD-ROM Boot Type

                            Now, it seems obvious I have to make a choice at this time: 1 or 2. Apart from the fact I have no clue what either of these choices are, I cannot type squat. The computer doesn't respond to the keyboard. 👊

                            Any thoughts? Aphorisms? Poems?

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                              remus
                              last edited by

                              Ive got to go and et ready for my first exam, might be able to give you a hand when i get back though. A good starting point would be to read this: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=468385

                              http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                                Stinkie
                                last edited by

                                Thanks for the link. I got all day at the office to dredge trough Mac forums to find a solution for this, erm, interesting problem. 😉

                                Kind of reminds me of the days I enjoyed myself with installing obscure Linux distributions on an old Pentium 3. 💚

                                Ah, the panic, the stress! 😄

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                                  remus
                                  last edited by

                                  Lol, have you downloaded the latest version of boot camp? (if you can download it, ive never had to try myself)

                                  http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                                  • StinkieS Offline
                                    Stinkie
                                    last edited by

                                    I used the version that came with my Leopard install disc. I did get this, though: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/application_updates/bootcampupdate21forwindowsvista64.html

                                    Strangely, that's an exe file.

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                                      remus
                                      last edited by

                                      Do .exe not run on macs then? I havent used a mac for a while and i cant remeber what extension their executables have...

                                      http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                                        Stinkie
                                        last edited by

                                        AFAIK, they don't run, no. Now, I'm not worried. A quick Google search taught there's plenty of people out there who experienced the same issue. There's bound to be a solution.

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                                          Stinkie
                                          last edited by

                                          Some poking around turned up this:

                                          "1. Insert Windows Install disc into DVD drive
                                          2. Using the build mode of imburn, go to the advanced tab, then bootable disc and then select your DVD drive in the extract boot image drop down list. Go ahead and extract the boot image and store it somewhere on your hard drive
                                          3. Go to the information tab and add your DVD drive as the source file
                                          4. Options tab, check that file system is ISO9660 + IDF and UDF revision is 1.02 (should be anyway by default)
                                          5. Go to Advanced tab, sub tab Restrictions and further sub tab ISO9660: Set Folder / File length to Level X and tick the four check boxes at the bottom (allow more than 8 directory levels, Allow more than 255 characters in path, Allow files without Extensions, Don’t Add ‘;1’ Version number to Files. (Note it’s this bit that actually solves the problem the rest is effectively just duplicating the existing disc)
                                          6. Move to the bootable disc tab: Click the tick box to make the image bootable, emulation type to “none (custom)” and the browse and select the boot image you previously extracted from the windows disc. Finally set Sectors to load to 4.
                                          7. Click the big create iso button to create the bootable iso.
                                          8. And use that iso to burn a new install disc.

                                          And this disc works!"

                                          Found here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=467704

                                          Didn't try this yet, as I am at the office.

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                                          • K Offline
                                            kwistenbiebel
                                            last edited by

                                            Wow Stinkie...
                                            I didn't know installing it was such a hassle.
                                            If I had known...
                                            Mine came istalled by the Mac Shop where I bought the thing so all was done for me...

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