RE OLE....I know about OLE but its hap hazard in AOO/LO....problematic RE embed picture....Yes...do that now all the time...very manual...doesnt lend well to update and managing versions. Since AOO/LO draw is not much more than impress (abstract shapes, simple diagrams, 2D) just curious if anybody was looking to take the productivity package to the next level. AOO/LO filters for Visio are real weak...so that is not an option. Could look at inkscape,etc...but those seem to be more about making logos and icons. Could look at vpython since there is a python bridge but vpython is really used for scientific visualization (relatevely crude colors and shapes, no real library of shapes to build off of, etc). so just curious.

In the value control box (VCB), you can enter relative and absolute coordinates too, see this help page...