@daniel said: All three words are synonymous. In the U.S. I think most would use the term ottoman. Thanks for your explonation and compliment. I have searched on these words but each word have several meanings, some of them are a bit weird. @daniel said: I tried modeling a sofa once - looked like it was carved from stone. I hope these models makes it a bit easier

Well I must like torturing myself. Had another go at this thing. Tweaked some of the materials. Redrew the flash lens. The way it was drawn I wasn't getting such a good result. Redrew lens so it was a solid piece and plugged some gaps on each side of the flash body. Still not sure of the best material set up for flash reflector. Might play with it some more. It's a frustrating model to work with. Froze up or crashed SU a good number of times. Was crashing TwilightV2 at every turn. I suspect it's the number of materials and how deep stuff is grouped. Wanted to create a bump map for the texture on the camera bodies but couldn't get SU to export the material. Got an error message every time. All in all not a bad second try. If I feel energetic might go back into the model and pare down the number of materials and see if things get a little more responsive. [image: f8RJ_JKiehlmann_Cameracopy3.jpg]