you rock Taylor thanks for the help.

after talking with camokid i am re approaching my tank to better suit the wheels. i did not model correctly and my hull was being seen as only a box thus pushing my wheels the wrong way.

in doing this i also chopped off the side skirt with a plane, outlined it and deleted my sloppy geometry and rebuilt a simpler version.

Great bomber btw! Reminds me of my Falcon 4.0 days.

What is this meshing? Im going to look it up.

Thanks camokid Im going to send you the file to your email when I get home in about 5 hours I hope thats okay.

I think I understand what your saying. I did make these holes for my torsion arms. Last night I tried to seal them up but had the same issue. Im going to look at the example your provided as well. Although I have not heard of meshing but it sounds interesting.

I really appreciate all the help.

Ugh Im getting stuck in the mud. My double hinges are turning inward.

I dont know what Im doing wrong and the tank is way to big already without the turret and gun. Oh well i guess this is good practice.

I would have provided the model in a zip but its so big.

@camokid - i followed your advice almost exactly thank you for suggesting that.

you know I believe i made a mistake. i put the origin of axes for the main group (my hull) at center hull bottom but.. i shouldve put it at ground level instead i put it at hull. now when the armor drops the wheels sort of hang.

duh! Now what. I cant explode without everything falling apart.

Any chance the selection cut tool will mess with my joints. I want to cut away the side skirts before attaching the joints so i can see a little better.

ok camokid i read your advice and i think i will do it that way

this is a pic of where i am right now, the hull and turret are hidden and i cut the wall off inside the armor plate. attachment tests are coming up

groan...

Thank you kindly.

Do joints export? Like to 3DS for example?