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    • G Offline
      Goggin
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      I find that I need to export my files to PDF format in order to have them printed on 24x36 paper at print-shops. But the quality of the image is terrible. The lines are so thick, that you can't even see walls on floor plans. It's just a big blur.

      Am I doing something wrong? Is there a way to export the file to PDF and preserve the image quality? Or, is there some other file type I can use? The print shops I go to, including Kinko's, don't have SketchUp on their systems, and I can only access the smaller printers from my laptop when I'm at one of their workstations; not the large printers for 24x36 inch paper

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      • G Offline
        Goggin
        last edited by

        I should add...

        I only have the free version of Adobe acrobat, but when my architect sends me a PDF file that she has exported from AutoCad, it looks fine. I don't think it's a problem on acrobat's end, but I figured I'd include this info just in case.

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
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          Hi Goggin,

          I'd have two questions:

          • Do you use any of the graphical styles provided now in SU6? Those might behave differently when exported.
          • Have you tried to export from LayOut?

          Gai...

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          • E Offline
            ever
            last edited by

            Try PDF995: http://www.pdf995.com/download.html
            It works as a virtual printer

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            • G Offline
              Goggin
              last edited by

              @gaieus said:

              Hi Goggin,

              I'd have two questions:

              • Do you use any of the graphical styles provided now in SU6? Those might behave differently when exported.

              I don't think so. I'm not even sure what those are. Mine is a simple floor plan-- nothing fancy.

              @unknownuser said:

              • Have you tried to export from LayOut?

              Yeah, that was what I was thinking I'd try next. I haven't used LayOut yet, but I'll give it a go today or tomorrow.

              I figured I must be doing something wrong since this is a key feature-- if it doesn't work well, then I don't think Pro would be worth purchasing.

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                Gaieus
                last edited by

                Wel,, I've read about some problems with printing or exporting to PDF and also that mostly there was a solution (I don't even ahve a printer 😄) but I cannot locate those threads.

                The other idea however - to use a virtual PDF printer, is not bad though.
                I use PDFCreator for instance.

                Gai...

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                • K Offline
                  Kenny
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                  Make sure you have the high quality settings on in the print dialogue box. The highest quality setting is the vector based HLR. Check the 'use high accuracy' HLR
                  box when printing. The only problem with this is that it doesn't
                  display textures or shadows. If using the non HLR settings to display
                  textures and shadows, for best results be sure to set the print quality to ultra high defintion.

                  Kenny

                  http://www.townscapesolutions.co.uk/

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                  • G Offline
                    Goggin
                    last edited by

                    Thanks for the advice. BTW, it's not just printing-- the file looks bad on my screen even before I print. I don't think adjusting the print options should affect that, should it?

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
                      last edited by

                      Could you show a screenshot of what it looks like?

                      Gai...

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                      • K Offline
                        Kenny
                        last edited by

                        The print settings shouldn't affect the display. Make sure you have got hardware accelaration on (Window, Preferences, Open GL)

                        Kenny

                        http://www.townscapesolutions.co.uk/

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                          Goggin
                          last edited by

                          @kenny said:

                          The print settings shouldn't affect the display. Make sure you have got hardware accelaration on (Window, Preferences, Open GL)

                          Kenny

                          Is that in SketchUP or Acrobat?

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                            Goggin
                            last edited by

                            @gaieus said:

                            Could you show a screenshot of what it looks like?

                            I have one, but I don't know how to post a file here. Is there some dummy site on this MB I can upload to and then link to from here?

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                            • GaieusG Offline
                              Gaieus
                              last edited by

                              Here we have an attachment server:
                              http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=760

                              Gai...

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                              • G Offline
                                Goggin
                                last edited by

                                Thanks, Gaieus. Let's see if this works. Sketch-up floor plan on the left, what the image looks like after export to Acrobat on the right:

                                Bathroom Floor Plan

                                BTW, I did have those setting correct, Kenny.

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                                • AnssiA Offline
                                  Anssi
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                                  You have some funny large value set in the Profile width box. Setting it to Match Screen display is usually enough

                                  Please don't use the BMP format for image attachments, the file sizes are enormous and they take ages to load

                                  Anssi
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                                    Goggin
                                    last edited by

                                    @anssi said:

                                    Please don't use the BMP format for image attachments, the file sizes are enormous and they take ages to load

                                    Sorry about that. I just used the screen-capture program that Gaieus recommended in an earlier thread: "Gadwin PrintScreen". I guess it defaults to .bmp. Can I still use that and convert to another format that doesn't create such large files?

                                    I'll fool around with your recommendations, but I'm not quite sure I understand what you're getting at. I set the drawing size parameters so that it would be to scale at 1/4" = 1' in Acrobat.

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                                      Goggin
                                      last edited by

                                      @gaieus said:

                                      Have you tried to export from LayOut?

                                      Just tried it. Same result-- bad.

                                      Anssii: I checked again, and I do have the "Profile Lines" section set to "Match screen display". I'm not sure what the "profile width" box is, though. Did you mean "Drawing Size width" box?

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                                        Anssi
                                        last edited by

                                        Sorry, my bad memory. Of course I meant the Profile lines box(and Section Lines, too)

                                        I cannot say right away what the problem is now. I remember once getting the same result, but not what caused it. Let's think about it...

                                        Well-you say you adjust the page size to get the right scale. For me it works the other way round. I set the scale, and the page size adjusts itself (as I tab out of the scale box). I never touch the page size settings unless I want output that is not to scale.

                                        Can you attach your skp file?

                                        Anssi

                                        securi adversus homines, securi adversus deos rem difficillimam adsecuti sunt, ut illis ne voto quidem opus esset

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                                          Goggin
                                          last edited by

                                          @anssi said:

                                          Well-you say you adjust the page size to get the right scale. For me it works the other way round. I set the scale, and the page size adjusts itself (as I tab out of the scale box). I never touch the page size settings unless I want output that is not to scale.

                                          Sorry if I didn't make that clear. I set the Drawing Size "scale" parameters* and let the "size" parameters adjust themselves.

                                          *This was not easy, though, as SketchUp kept trying to tell me I was exceeding the page size limit. I had to do it in a certain order, or it would reject it.

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          Can you attach your skp file?

                                          Hmmm. Having trouble doing that. I copied my SketchUp file into the sketchucation newbie folder, but when I click on it, I don't get a URL address to link to-- just and empty (Mozilla) browser page. It worked fine with that .bmp file I did earlier. If you want to look at it, it's in the newbie folder under "Bathroom Floor Plan".

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                                          • boofredlayB Offline
                                            boofredlay
                                            last edited by

                                            Here you go.

                                            http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Newbie/Bathroom%20Floor%20Plan.skp

                                            http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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