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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
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      What lights did you apply at all?
      (in Kerky, back faces cannot get any material except for thin glass)

      Gai...

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        pichuneke
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        I didnt' modify anything in kerkythea, I am a newbie with that program. 😆

        So it's an isue with kerkythea, Am I right?

        Respect to orient/reversed faces, I suposse I must modify every single surface and give it a texture. I'll do it when I finish.

        Forgive my spanglish...

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
          last edited by

          Better earlier than later I think. The more you have the more you'll need to reverse!

          Gai...

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            pichuneke
            last edited by

            I am examining it, and I see that al the component has a texture, not "A face, a texture". Or something like that.

            Must I begin to define every single face?

            Forgive my spanglish...

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
              last edited by

              Go to monochrome rendering mode to see whether you have front or back faces.
              If they are components, even better; enter a component's context, select all the back faces and reverse them. All other instances will change along. Now use the material (again, on the front face) to paint it.

              It does not matter whether you apply a material / texture on a back face; back faces are not good either way.

              Gai...

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                pichuneke
                last edited by

                I oriented the faces in the inma cavea, (the blue area) and the problem persists:

                http://i9.tinypic.com/6l3pous.png

                I suposse it's a problem of materials in Kerkythea... I don't know 😒

                Forgive my spanglish...

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                  jenujacob
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                  Pichu...
                  which render preset are u using??? try to use Photonmap medium + aa 0.3 preset.
                  lower presets can cause light leaks like the ones u showed here...
                  also try using the path tracing progressive preset if ur using just the physical sky.. takes longer time to render though.. i would suggest it only for the final images.

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                    pichuneke
                    last edited by

                    My settings:

                    http://i6.tinypic.com/81i9ssg.jpg

                    http://i14.tinypic.com/8b7c289.jpg

                    Forgive my spanglish...

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                    • jenujacobJ Offline
                      jenujacob
                      last edited by

                      i assume u havnt made any changes in the materials???
                      i guess u better post this in the KT forum.... 😕

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                        pichuneke
                        last edited by

                        Yes, I didn't make any changes to materials. I have no idea about this 😳

                        I am looking for a solution in Google. As my english and knowledge are limited, I didn't know that the key word was "light leak". If I can't find anything, I will post my problem in Kerkythea Forums.

                        Forgive my spanglish...

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                          pichuneke
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                          Now I know that is a bug, but is not my fault. The light leaks appear under Photon Map mode, not with the others.

                          The images below show you what I say, under different presets.

                          PHOTON MAP FINE + AA 0.3

                          http://i12.tinypic.com/7ynuh78.jpg

                          PHOTON MAP FINE + CAUSTICS + AA 0.3

                          http://i11.tinypic.com/87artwz.jpg

                          RAY TRACING HIGH + AA 0.3

                          http://i9.tinypic.com/8bdulc7.jpg

                          PATH TRACING HIGH + AA 0.3

                          http://i12.tinypic.com/6y34pw4.jpg

                          After doing a quick test, Metropolis Light Transport seems to work well, too.

                          So now I am not nervous, and I know that I can continue with my work. I was doing it well.

                          Forgive my spanglish...

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                            pichuneke
                            last edited by

                            I have tried to start a chorintian capital, that's what I have done untill now:

                            http://i11.tinypic.com/6krmc7m.jpg

                            I used a photo of a capital (Gaeius, you know what I am talking about 😉 ).

                            I drew the figure over a photograph, and then I did something like a tutorial I can't find now, I used intersections to make it. And then I adjusted it manually.

                            The size now is 147 kb, but the photo is 55 ,kb. I believe I can use 500 kb for the entire capital.

                            Forgive my spanglish...

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                              pichuneke
                              last edited by

                              This is the actual situation of the capital:

                              http://i5.tinypic.com/6kp7xvb.jpg

                              about 230 kb

                              Forgive my spanglish...

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                                pichuneke
                                last edited by

                                About 290 kb:

                                http://i3.tinypic.com/6tp0i3d.jpg

                                Forgive my spanglish...

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                                  pichuneke
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                                  A render of the capital. It is almost finished, I have to work on some details yet.

                                  The size is 371 kb at the moment 😄

                                  http://i15.tinypic.com/80wx9x0.png

                                  Forgive my spanglish...

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                                  • GaieusG Offline
                                    Gaieus
                                    last edited by

                                    And you were asking for tutorials on this!
                                    😄

                                    Great job, really (just keep in mind to put these on a hidden layer while modelling).

                                    Gai...

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                                      pichuneke
                                      last edited by

                                      Well...

                                      "Do or do not. There is not "try"" 😆 😆 😆

                                      Forgive my spanglish...

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                                      • GaieusG Offline
                                        Gaieus
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                                        I've put together a couple of types of the Ionic order (more or less complete) but haven't been able to create "easy-to-follow" tutorials from them yet.
                                        They require external plugins (ruby scripts).

                                        Gai...

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                                          pichuneke
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                                          Ionic Order is easier than corinthian, so I am not afraid now 😄

                                          If you are interested, when I finish the capitals I upload them here as an attachement.

                                          I believe that today I will finish the corinthian column. And then I will have for my first time the known problem of "I want to replace this old component for this new one in the same geometrical position". I believe that is a classic...

                                          Edit: the exact Ionic capital I need is "Italic Ionic". A friend of mine (the other model I told you) is looking for information about it.

                                          Forgive my spanglish...

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                                          • GaieusG Offline
                                            Gaieus
                                            last edited by

                                            Yes there is a difference in the Greek Ionic and the Italian one (I mean the Roman interpretation of the classical Ionic order).

                                            The problem in English language that they only have one word for this - "Ionic" (derivation of the Latin "Ionica") - which in Vitruvian use only refers to the Italian one.

                                            The main dufference is that while the Greek loooks really like a scroll (so it it symmetrical from two sides and then another symmetry applies to the other two sides), the Italian is symmetrical from all 4 sides (has the shape of the abacus something like that of your Corinthian capital and the volutae torn in a bend to form similar scroll on the corners).

                                            This was implemented by the Romans after the Greeks, too, however because on the corners of the temples the Greeks had to "cheat" as well. Now the Romans used these +cheated corners" for all 4 corners of their capitals and this way they can ba all alike.

                                            But too many words - I should just make a couple of sketches instead...

                                            Gai...

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