Preparing for SmustardOrganizer script

Haggai

Rick, another thing my "select at startup" is not funtioning anymore i downloade the last version but it still not selecting, does it go in another place than the plugins folder?

[haggai]

RickW

Not all files will be edited - only those that have a menu item in the Plugins menu will be edited. They can still be put in subfolders, but will appear in their specified menu locations.

SelectAtStartup (startup.rb) should be located in the Plugins folder, not in a subfolder.

Make sure you don't have sketchup.rb, langhandler.rb, or oImage.rb in your Plugins folder.

Haggai

@rickw said:

SelectAtStartup (startup.rb) should be located in the Plugins folder, not in a subfolder.

Make sure you don't have sketchup.rb, langhandler.rb, or oImage.rb in your Plugins folder.

I don't have these files in my plugings folder, they are in the "tools" folder.

@rickw said:

Not all files will be edited - only those that have a menu item in the Plugins menu will be edited. They can still be put in subfolders, but will appear in their specified menu locations.

Can I edit the other file manualy to have them be "organizer.rb friendly"?
if yes what do I need to change?

I still don't know what is the message
"Error Loading File organizer.rb
undefined method `add_item' for nil:NilClass"
is there things I need to do, I read all the infos about how to install bout ten times, i think that i did it ok and it work for many of the rubys, I don't mind if they do not all get organized now but the message is in the way.

thank you

[haggai]

RickW

Open the ruby console (Window>Ruby Console) and type
load "organizer.rb"
then press <enter>. If the error message displays, copy and paste it into a message - make sure to copy everything in the console.

Haggai

OK thank you, i did as you said and locate the error message, it came from a french stair ruby i removed it and now i don't get the message anymore.

this was the error line when a run ( load "organizer.rb" )
Error: #<NoMethodError: C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/10 French/fr_stair_maker062.rb:210: undefined method `add_item' for nil:NilClass>

haggai

here is the ruby file that i removed what shall I do to it to function
http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Ruby/fr_stair_maker062.rb

Haggai

The file is missing information for creating menu items. I downloaded it from Didier's website, and it is non-functional in both the French (which you posted) and English (which I downloaded) versions.

I fixed the file (attached below), and it should now work.

http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Ruby/fr2_stair_maker062.rb

Haggai

Rick,thank you for looking into this for me, I put the file yuo sent to the pluggings folder and it function ( but the script in imperial and not metric ).
the other thing is that if I put it in my "French" subfolder it still gives me the same error message

I give you the error message plus few lines above concerning the same script

C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/10 French/fr_stair_maker062.rb:179: warning: (...) interpreted as grouped expression
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/10 French/fr_stair_maker062.rb:195: warning: (...) interpreted as grouped expression
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/10 French/fr_stair_maker062.rb:288: warning: (...) interpreted as grouped expression
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/10 French/fr_stair_maker062.rb:304: warning: (...) interpreted as grouped expression
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/10 French/fr_stair_maker062.rb:29: warning: method redefined; discarding old archetypesElements_straightConcreteStair
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/10 French/fr_stair_maker062.rb:131: warning: method redefined; discarding old archetypesElements_straightSteelStair
Error: #<NoMethodError: C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/10 French/fr_stair_maker062.rb:210: undefined method `add_item' for nil:NilClass>

thank you very much for helping

for my other files it seems that the first time I ran the organizer.rb it did not take everything but now I bring many of the file back to the pluggins folder run the script and put them back after. I think that it should be different but this way now I see what is happening, but for the future will I have to put my scripts first in the pluggins folder and then move them to subfolder or can I put them straight in the subfolder??

I am sorry for taking so much of your time but hopefully my questions will help others like me.

haggai

RickW

When you download new scripts, they will have to be modified to work with Organizer. The organizerEdit script only looks in the Plugins folder for scripts to edit (so that things that have been edited and organized aren't re-examined).

So download to the Plugins folder, perform the auto edit, then organize and restart Sketchup.

I didn't look too carefully at the stair script, just added the appropriate menu lines. It looks like the script has other issues, and unfortunately I don't have time right now to troubleshoot it. Sorry...

Haggai

Thank you for your quick reply on that, I imagine that you are busy for the rest of the stuff i asked.
I will wait maybe someone else had the same problem.

again thank you.

[Haggai]

RickW

I put the file into a subfolder. It loaded without problems, and it works correctly. I'm not sure why you are gettting the error messages. Is the script in two folders (like Plugins AND 10 French)? Make sure there are no duplicate scripts.

Haggai

Rick thank you again for this help,
so I look and I found the script was there but the english version with a different ruby name, I wanted to have a subfolder with all my french ruby because most of the time the mesurment there are metric, I am french and I work with both metric and Imperial, now i am in the US for a while and all i need to do is imperial but sometime i get some request from france and need to work in metric. Is there a way to have both sets. it seems that the problem is that both script call the same action or something like that and causes a confict somewhere. I don't know anything about ruby script really but i am willing to learn.

by the way I reorganise the rest of all my script to be organiseable, now one thing i wish to have is the possibility to have all my plugings in one submenu in the context menu like the script TIG made (ContextMenuMenus.rb) he has all the menus (1,2,3,4,5,6,8) he jumped the 7 which is the pluging menu because it is different in each user.
submenu1=submenus.add_submenu("Edit...") ### adds the submenus for the items that follow
submenu2=submenus.add_submenu("View...")
submenu3=submenus.add_submenu("Camera...")
submenu4=submenus.add_submenu("Draw...")
submenu5=submenus.add_submenu("Tools...")
submenu6=submenus.add_submenu("Window...")
submenu8=submenus.add_submenu("Help...")
So i wanted to put the 7th submenu in the list. Is there a way that something can be done with organizer.rb to read all that is in the plugins folder and add them to the submenu7 in the context menu ???
this will be a big plus to your script.
untill now you have solved all my problems.
thank you for all your useful scripts

[Haggai]

RickW

You can add a folder name to the SmustardOrganizerExcludeFolders.txt file, and that folder will not be loaded. Or you can add "--" to the front of a folder name and it will not load. This way, you can prevent the metric and imperial from both loading - just exclude the one you don't want to use. When you need to switch, change the excluded folder and restart Sketchup.

While it is possible to add the whole plugins menu to the context menu, it won't be immediately available with Organizer, but perhaps in a future version I will add that.

JClements

Hi Rick:

Couple of questions/requests:

Could you post a screen capture of how a typical "organized" plugin directory would appear?
Is there any way for the organizer script [assuming the Smustard (or any other scripts) were properly annotated] to display the revision number? And, if not the Organizer script, perhaps another similar script,ie., an "About.rb" script, to detect the rev levels?
Would there be a method for the users to control the order of scripts within a folders (short of renaming them) or is this still controlled by SU as it loads the scripts into memory?

Regards, John

JClements at brwncald daught com

RickW

Well, I think it's up to the individual user, but I created the following folders:

Cameras-Pages
Draw-Create
Edit-Modify
Export-Import
Selection
Textures-Materials
There are items not in folders, but I think the majority are categorized.

The annotation part is the key. I could try to create something like that, but my guess is that it would be rather "iffy". For Smustard scripts, a quick trip to MySmustard (via the Smustard Toolbar) will give you a synopsis of the last script version you downloaded, compared to the version currently available.
I think it's still controlled loosely by SU and/or the OS. Organzier could load things alphabetically by sorting the directory list before loading, but that's about the extent of it. It would be possible to create a text file that indicates the order to load scripts, but I think that would be prone to problems if things got moved or deleted. I'll think about how that might be implemented and see if it could be workable.

JClements

Thanks, Rick

not registered yet

Rick,
Maybe I'm just not getting it today, but I have followed the instructions given for Organizer and keep getting this message when I run organizerEdit.txt from the Ruby console.

organizerEdit.txt
Error: #<NameError: (eval):196: undefined local variable or method `organizerEdit' for #Object:0xe8a6880>
(eval):196

If I go ahead and add my folders, they show on the plugins menu, but don't do anything. And the original plugins are still listed as before!!?

Any idea what's going on?

[TonyF]

RickW

Rather than typing
organizerEdit.txt

you need to type
load "organizerEdit.txt"

Hope that helps...

not registered yet

organizerEdit.txt ran okay, but I didn't get a log file.
Further, when I create a sub folder under plugins, it shows on the Plugins menu drop down, but any files I put in that folder are listed underneath it, not inside it?

[TonyF]

not registered yet

Rick,
I'm still not having much success
"organizerEdit.txt" seems to run okay - i.e. the Ruby conole shows no errors, but no log file is produced.
If I add a new sub-folder to the plugins folder, it does not show in the Plugins menu until I put a ruby file in the new folder. Even then, the ruby that I have just put in to the sub-folder, does not show up as a sub-menu item, but is listed below the new sub-menu item on the main Plugins menu drop down.
Confused ?? That make two of us
Any ideas??

[TonyF]

RickW

It sounds like the .rb files didn't get edited. Please contact me through Smustard so we can email back and forth. I would like to see some of the files that are giving you problems.