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    Jorgensen
    last edited by 12 Jun 2024, 06:51

    Hi

    I've been jealous of the users of Rhino for some years - that they have the node based tool - grasshopper.

    This morning I search for something similar for Sketchup, and I discovered the plugin " Parametric Modeling" by Samuel Tallet. It seems to be what I was searching for!
    https://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=parametric_modeling

    I think node based modeling could be a big think for Sketchup, but it seems development stopped back in 2021, witch I find sad....

    I have tried to find a way to contact Samuel, but I was not able to so πŸ˜•
    Does anynoe know a way of contacting Samuel, or know of a similar project?

    Jorgensen

    sketchup pro 2016 16.1.1449 64 bit | windows 10 pro | i7-3770k @3.5 GHz | 16gb ram | gtx 780 ti / gtx 980 ti | nvidia driver 368.39

    D 1 Reply Last reply 13 Jun 2024, 00:12 Reply Quote 0
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      Dan Rathbun @Jorgensen
      last edited by 13 Jun 2024, 00:12

      @Jorgensen said in Parametric Modeling - development?:

      I've been jealous of the users of Rhino for some years - that they have the node based tool - grasshopper.

      I think node based modeling could be a big think for Sketchup, but it seems development stopped back in 2021, witch I find sad....

      Sorry, Cannot help with contact.

      But SketchUp Live Components and the Trimble Creator have not been abandoned AFAIK.

      Discussion is still happening in its SketchUp Labs subcatgeory.

      I'm not here much anymore.

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        Jorgensen @Dan Rathbun
        last edited by 13 Jun 2024, 17:55

        @Dan-Rathbun Hi Dan. I haven't heard of Live Components - I need to look into that.

        Thanks

        sketchup pro 2016 16.1.1449 64 bit | windows 10 pro | i7-3770k @3.5 GHz | 16gb ram | gtx 780 ti / gtx 980 ti | nvidia driver 368.39

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          samuel_t
          last edited by samuel_t 13 Jun 2024, 20:46

          Hi Jorgensen,

          I am the author of the Parametric Modeling plugin, I am glad you are interested in it.

          The problem is that I have too many projects in parallel and I develop them on my free time...
          I intend to improve this plugin but I cannot give a release date.

          I remain open to your ideas.

          Cordially,
          Samuel Tallet

          J 1 Reply Last reply 14 Jun 2024, 16:14 Reply Quote 1
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            Jorgensen @samuel_t
            last edited by 14 Jun 2024, 16:14

            @samuel_t
            Hi Samuel - thanks for the reply. I know all to good, having to many projects and to little time. I hope you find the the time to develop it further in the future.

            Just a quick question - is it possible to use the nodes with allready modeled geometry - like creating arrays of components?

            Keep up the nice work
            Jorgensen

            sketchup pro 2016 16.1.1449 64 bit | windows 10 pro | i7-3770k @3.5 GHz | 16gb ram | gtx 780 ti / gtx 980 ti | nvidia driver 368.39

            S 1 Reply Last reply 18 Jun 2024, 23:14 Reply Quote 0
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              samuel_t @Jorgensen
              last edited by 18 Jun 2024, 23:14

              @Jorgensen

              You can extract, the shape from a group or component already available in the model, a shape a priori created outside the Nodes Editor.

              1. SketchUp Parametric Modeling - Extract Shape.png

              Once imported into the Nodes Editor, this entity is represented by a β€œDraw shape” node, this entity is not as configurable as a pure parametric entity but you can still apply parametric operations to it, such as β€œCopy”, β€œMove”...

              2. SketchUp Parametric Modeling - Copy Shape.png

              I can explain the formula inside this β€œMove”, if needed.

              Note iterations can be slow if you use heavy shapes like those corinthian columns. I must optimize the performance of this plugin, at lost time :'D

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                Jorgensen @samuel_t
                last edited by 19 Jun 2024, 11:05

                Hi @samuel_t

                Thanks for getting back to me.
                Iv'e just tested and it works very fine πŸ™‚

                Just a quick question - is it possible to copy paste a node?

                Jorgensen

                sketchup pro 2016 16.1.1449 64 bit | windows 10 pro | i7-3770k @3.5 GHz | 16gb ram | gtx 780 ti / gtx 980 ti | nvidia driver 368.39

                S 1 Reply Last reply 19 Jun 2024, 21:18 Reply Quote 1
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                  samuel_t @Jorgensen
                  last edited by samuel_t 19 Jun 2024, 21:18

                  Hi @Jorgensen,

                  The "Copy / Paste this node" feature is on my TODO list πŸ˜‰

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                    Jorgensen @samuel_t
                    last edited by 20 Jun 2024, 19:52

                    @samuel_t ah ok - Thanks πŸ™‚

                    sketchup pro 2016 16.1.1449 64 bit | windows 10 pro | i7-3770k @3.5 GHz | 16gb ram | gtx 780 ti / gtx 980 ti | nvidia driver 368.39

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                      Jorgensen @samuel_t
                      last edited by 25 Jun 2024, 05:31

                      @samuel_t

                      Hi Samuel

                      Would it be possible to use nodes, to control materials, or don’t you have access to the materials?

                      Jorgensen

                      sketchup pro 2016 16.1.1449 64 bit | windows 10 pro | i7-3770k @3.5 GHz | 16gb ram | gtx 780 ti / gtx 980 ti | nvidia driver 368.39

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                        samuel_t @Jorgensen
                        last edited by samuel_t 25 Jun 2024, 22:11

                        Hi @Jorgensen,

                        What exactly do you mean by "to control materials"?

                        In the Nodes Editor, it is possible to apply a material to the group resulting from a Draw pyramid node, for example.

                        This material comes from the active model. If this parametric schema is then imported into another model which does not have this material, it is then substituted by a random color.

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                          Jorgensen @samuel_t
                          last edited by Jorgensen 27 Jun 2024, 18:59

                          Hi @samuel_t

                          MATERIAL NODE
                          What I meant was, if it is possible to handle material parameters like

                          • color
                          • opacity
                          • image source (path)
                          • image size x
                          • image size y

                          The use for this would be, creating a material, and two or more bitmap nodes, this way is fast to change and test different material settings, eg. by switching between the two bitmap nodes.

                          SLIDER NODE
                          A slider node for fast and easy way to change values, and seem them change without having to think about a number - just watching the result.

                          COMPONENTS
                          Would it possible to use components instead of groups? it would be very usefull to copy components around, and when you edit one, you edit all.
                          It might allready be possible, and I have just overlooked it.

                          An example - a simple hotel - I created one component, use nodes to construct the hotel and BAM. It could hotel rooms, as components, that can be copied around.
                          Then it's easy to add details and update the whole project in one operation.

                          In the example I created a component, the single one on the left. I then used Node editor to copy the component, but they become groups, and when I change the first component - nothing happens - of cource.

                          Could be interresting πŸ™‚
                          Jorgensen

                          10.JPG 20.jpg

                          sketchup pro 2016 16.1.1449 64 bit | windows 10 pro | i7-3770k @3.5 GHz | 16gb ram | gtx 780 ti / gtx 980 ti | nvidia driver 368.39

                          J 1 Reply Last reply 16 Jul 2024, 07:49 Reply Quote 1
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                            Jorgensen @Jorgensen
                            last edited by 16 Jul 2024, 07:49

                            @samuel_t components? 😊

                            sketchup pro 2016 16.1.1449 64 bit | windows 10 pro | i7-3770k @3.5 GHz | 16gb ram | gtx 780 ti / gtx 980 ti | nvidia driver 368.39

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                              Jorgensen @Jorgensen
                              last edited by 7 Oct 2024, 10:10

                              @samuel_t bump πŸ™‚

                              sketchup pro 2016 16.1.1449 64 bit | windows 10 pro | i7-3770k @3.5 GHz | 16gb ram | gtx 780 ti / gtx 980 ti | nvidia driver 368.39

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                                Jorgensen
                                last edited by 24 Feb 2025, 07:23

                                I hope that you, or others, pickup and continue to develop this plugin / feature - as I think is has a huge potential πŸ™‚

                                sketchup pro 2016 16.1.1449 64 bit | windows 10 pro | i7-3770k @3.5 GHz | 16gb ram | gtx 780 ti / gtx 980 ti | nvidia driver 368.39

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                                  L i am
                                  last edited by 24 Feb 2025, 10:47

                                  I am having a play with it, not got my head around it yet, but my initial thoughts are it looks quite powerful

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                                    L i am
                                    last edited by L i am 24 Feb 2025, 10:57

                                    I do not know much about AI but what about asking AI to work on it. Please note the short conversation I had with Ruby.png AI

                                    Amazing

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                                      L i am
                                      last edited by 24 Feb 2025, 11:07

                                      and this oneruby2.jpg

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                                        samuel_t
                                        last edited by 26 Feb 2025, 23:32

                                        @Jorgensen, @L-i-am Thanks for your interest in this plugin πŸ™‚ I haven't abandoned it... I just have too many projects in progress πŸ˜“

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