Ukraine
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Western toleration with putin, during last two decades, has made him impudent more and more. I hope this time world could change the story ending...
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Well I expected it but the internet is extremely flaky right now with disconnects and lots of packet loss. Not this end so no idea why.
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Thank you, brother... I usually get warnings from my lovely kind wife, not to enter long disputes with dogmatic people, but it seems that the way to a better world goes through rational conversations without any bias or fanaticism, requesting more clarification from politicians, considering humanity as a whole...It is a step-by-step process of awareness...
I share my deep sorrow for the lovely Ukrainian people with you and pray for their victory. Despite the result, it will remain a shame on Putin, but just see how biased we are, it is a shame to voracious politicians in this civilized world. we can not see these evil invasions in a broader scope, as I think being surrounded by Matrix! makes me not see some facts:P.S. (It seems that the images are picked and designed ..., but worth pondering),
Declaration: I LOVE UKRAINE, strong culture, president, and brave people!P.S 2: I DID A RESEARCH AND REALIZED THAT ALL IMAGES ARE DESIGNED, AND SOMEHOW FAKE. but still worth pondering.
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Clarification:
I SEARCHED AND REALIZED that THOSE IMAGE ARE MADE...NUMBER OF LIKES, ETC is designef...SO are FAKE, BUT STILL WORTH PONDERING AND ACTING AGAINST WAR, POVERTY, DOGMATISM... -
I am aware that nothing is perfect but it seems that there is little stomach to deal with Putin and his Ukrainian invasion. Back when Saddam Hussein was threatening and killing his own people and Kuwaiti citizens we had the collaborative efforts of many nations Islamic and non Islamic states. That this was a wasted opportunity is I believe why nations are unwilling to stand up to this current situation.
What is it about us that we are willing to see people slaughtered?
There are thousands of us who have had our health ruined by Op Granby or Desert Shield/storm but the will to help the victims of this war cannot have completely gone, Shirley. We volunteered outside of reserve periods and did what was right. NOT to show off but to do the right thing and stand up, be counted at the side of the weaker folk among us.
I suppose Putin gambled on us all being so Covid punch drunk that we just do not care any more and not being well/fit enough to go and do something myself has me fuming and angry as hell. Possibly blame the Irish in my blood for that a bit. My grandfather apparently also got angry at the same sort of thing and went of to Spain.
Right now the adult Badgers are delivering cubs, forcing the juveniles from last years litter to give them some peace to do so. They come here and get a little support feeding. Of ALL the wild beasts I have been involved with, the human being is the only one to behave in this manner. These juveniles do not entirely trust me but when the cubs start to explore with 'mum' I know they will come round here and they will be climbing up my shins to see what 'Uncle' has for them and the adults will be happy to let that happen again.
No matter how isolated we feel, when we work together we make a society/world worth being a part of and I so very much hope I live to see it but not sure I can hold my breath that long. Either end. Sorry, you will get that or not.
I hope you ALL stay well out there no matter where you are, Russian, Ukrainian or whatever. Stay well you and yours but please, make a difference where you are and become part of the solution.
Peace brothers, sisters. Out.
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I wish a long happy life for you and hope we could see a better world all together, though it is a dream.
So sad about the situation, for sure one of my heroes would be Zeleneskyy, as I saw him besides his nation, that is so admirable. It has so many lessons for world politicians to be learned. -
I feel I am living in an uncivilized yet modern world! Crazy and insane yet serious!
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Looks like things aren't going well for the feared Russian military, the whole world is uniting and punishing Russia, people there are demonstrating and getting arrested, things will prob get much worse there soon and the people will rise up!
so we might be seeing the start of the 2nd Russian revolution, fingers crossed! Then, Russia joins NATO and Peace returns stronger to the world.
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Nicholas I died on March 2nd
Stalin died on March 5th
Alexander II was murdered on March 13th by the “People’s Will” movement
Iván the Terrible died on March 28th
Paul I was killed on March 24th by his officers Generally speaking
March is a bad month for Russian leaders.
beware the Ides of March -
@solo said:
Nicholas I died on March 2nd
Stalin died on March 5th
Alexander II was murdered on March 13th by the “People’s Will” movement
Iván the Terrible died on March 28th
Paul I was killed on March 24th by his officers Generally speaking
March is a bad month for Russian leaders.
beware the Ides of MarchI hope that list of coincidences grows longer and even becomes even more amazing
March, do that thing you do so well 
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I hope it ends up soon, every single life matters! In whatever possible solution, that may not be related to poo-tin death solely. I mean it may not depend on his death and is an aftermath of some other decisions made by politicians...
"Every soldier in his pocket, within his hair, amidst his uniform buttons,
takes a woman with him to the war scene!
War casualty estimates have always been wrong!
each bullet kills at least two!
The soldier and the girl in his ribcage!"[sup:3tuccb0x]I do not know the poet. roughly translated by me.[/sup:3tuccb0x]
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So sorrowful for Ukraine...
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My heart aches as I read and watch this all going on. If you feel as I do and would like to help. . .consider giving to https://philanthropies.churchofjesuschrist.org/humanitarian-services. There is a link for directly donating to Ukraine. All monies go directly to the displaced without regard to religious affiliation or nationality. The Church is covering all overhead costs
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Such a horrific situation, truly. There's an archviz studio ArchCGI (I think I'd bought assets from them before and am on their email list) have sent out a plea for donations. Some of their employees are in Ukraine. Here's the donation link https://savekyiv.org/
body of their email:
@unknownuser said:
Dear colleagues!
We are ArchiCGI 3D rendering studio. Today, we are writing to you not for professional reasons, but to ask for help. Our production offices are situated in Ukraine, and the country is now invaded by Russian troops. They destroy villages, lay siege to towns and cities, bomb and shell residential quarters. Tonight, they attacked our nuclear power plant, the biggest in Europe. Last week, the troops occupied the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant.
Some of our 3D artists had to leave for safer parts of the country, and some joined the Defensive Army. We help them by volunteering. We raise money, buy necessities in Europe, take them to Poland, and then — to Ukraine.
We take care of the elderly and gravely ill who cannot find the medicines they need, and often don’t have the means to buy food. So we deliver necessities across Kyiv right into their homes.
So far, we have raised 174 910,14 USD. You can see what we bought and where we took the humanitarian aid in this presentation.
View the Presentation
Unfortunately, that’s not nearly enough to help everyone, and the situation in the country degrades.
Would you like to join forces with us and help those in need? You could do this by donating at https://savekyiv.org/
On this site, you will find how we organized the process, what we buy, and how we take it from Europe to homes in Kyiv.
If you have any questions, don’t hesitate to write to us.
Wishing you peaceful homes and thrilling projects,
Best Regards,
ArchiCGI Team -
Absolutely 100% chilling
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I had to post this, look at how isolated and destained he is
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From what I have read about the situation in Ukraine, both the build up from 1990 and what we now have, I feel no one should really be surprised about what is happening currently.
It seems that The West needs an enemy, if for no other reason than to justify the huge military budgets and the Military Industrial Complex. Now Germany has jointed this complex with 2% of their very considerable GNP. The figure will run to €100,000,000,000 plus!
As for the Russian Federation, they are stuck with a man that feels cornered. He is acting the way I expected considering his KGB training. Doesn't every person with basic common sense know that if you corner a dangerous animal, it will launch a vicious attack against the perceived threat.
It seems Russia asked to join both the EU and NATO at various times and each time they were laughed at. If Russia did join the EU and NATO it would beg the question, Why is NATO needed? Oh! I was forgetting about China! However the Chinese will continue playing the long game and from the looks of it they are making a good job of it.
The UN Security Council were not able to pass a resolution condemning the Ukraine invasion by the RF as the RF member vetoed the vote! What is the point of the UN these days? It seriously needs to be reconstructed and definitely relocated to a neutral country!
As regards neutral countries goes, it looks like they are going to be rarer than hen's teeth. There is talk about Sweden joining NATO and my little country, Ireland, now has its Minister for Foreign Affairs declaring that we are no longer a neutral country! I suppose Switzerland would be a save bet. A neutral country is the best place to host peace talks!
How this will end! While no one can be sure, it will probably go on for some time as its going to be a great money spinner for the Military Industrial Complex or the stranded / set up Ukrainian President will throw in the towel to save the country's children from further bloodshed. I hope it's the latter.
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I know this can be seen as a cheap shot but I voted leave in the brexit vote because I knew this would happen. I also pointed this out to the then eu president but was shot down.
The paranoia exhibited by Putin and the ruling clique has been the driver and the eu moving eastwards their cause celeb, they were always going to resist violently at some point and Ukraine was always going to bear the brunt. Their is too much in the way history for those who desire a return to the Soviet Union.
With the freedoms Ukrainians have had since the breakup of the USSR they have found their feet and grown stronger identity and nationality wise so they are not going to surrender while there is any chance of an enforced halt on the Russians.
Will Putin push the nuclear button? Possibly the tactical weapons, the more resistance the more tempting use of tactical weapons will become. Putin must prove himself a credible leader or go down the same route as Caesar did with a coup from within his own group of oligarchs/political affiliates who have much to lose personally. This could well be the end of Russia as any kind of influencer on the world stage and THEN the PRC will be in to Siberia like rats up a drain pipe, they will state their aims are humanitarian but we all know they are resources and space for their nationals and national growth.
Ukraine is only part of the mess, what with growing unrest among Russian citizens and protests on the streets Putins credibility in his own country is already waning fast.
The usual villains and the usual victims remain the same. The cost will be through the roof not just in the affected region but around the world. If it were not for the self agrandising and money grabbing individuals around the world we could have a more peaceful and harmonious world but that is as likely as. We COULD have a situation where the bigger nations collaborate to safeguard the smaller and more vulnerable states but it seems we are not ready for that yet. Ukraine are already doubting NATO membership which is turning towards Russian demands but not likely to disarm themselves.
What a bloody stupid and crass situation to be in.
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@mike lucey said:
From what I have read about the situation in Ukraine, both the build up from 1990 and what we now have, I feel no one should really be surprised about what is happening currently.
It seems that The West needs an enemy, if for no other reason than to justify the huge military budgets and the Military Industrial Complex. Now Germany has jointed this complex with 2% of their very considerable GNP. The figure will run to €100,000,000,000 plus!
As for the Russian Federation, they are stuck with a man that feels cornered. He is acting the way I expected considering his KGB training. Doesn't every person with basic common sense know that if you corner a dangerous animal, it will launch a vicious attack against the perceived threat.
It seems Russia asked to join both the EU and NATO at various times and each time they were laughed at....
russia has never sought NATO and the EU. A country that has not found its identity in any way. Whether to go to Asia or Europe.
You live very far from russian propaganda and you don’t know much.You did not live in the soviet union, and you do not know much. -
@alvis said:
@mike lucey said:
From what I have read about the situation in Ukraine, both the build up from 1990 and what we now have, I feel no one should really be surprised about what is happening currently.
It seems that The West needs an enemy, if for no other reason than to justify the huge military budgets and the Military Industrial Complex. Now Germany has jointed this complex with 2% of their very considerable GNP. The figure will run to €100,000,000,000 plus!
As for the Russian Federation, they are stuck with a man that feels cornered. He is acting the way I expected considering his KGB training. Doesn't every person with basic common sense know that if you corner a dangerous animal, it will launch a vicious attack against the perceived threat.
It seems Russia asked to join both the EU and NATO at various times and each time they were laughed at....
russia has never sought NATO and the EU. A country that has not found its identity in any way. Whether to go to Asia or Europe.
You live very far from russian propaganda and you don’t know much.You did not live in the soviet union, and you do not know much.Hi alvis,
I fully appreciate that you probably know a lot more about living under a communist regime than I, you being from Lithuania.
However, I have learned quite a bit about the current Ukrainian situation from research, mostly online but also from talking to friends now living here in Ireland that have come from countries that were under the USSR yoke.
I suggest you check out this article,
'Ex-Nato head says Putin wanted to join alliance early on in his rule'
The Guardian article is very credible with facts that appear to back it up. Also the mentioned David Frost interview with Putin carries a lot of weigh.
The interview in question,'BBC BREAKFAST WITH FROST INTERVIEW: VLADIMIR PUTIN MARCH 5TH, 2000' transcript may be found here, http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/audio_video/programmes/breakfast_with_frost/transcripts/putin5.mar.txt
The relevant excerpt reads,
DAVID FROST:
Is it possible Russia could join NATO?PUTIN:
I don't see why not. I would not rule out such a possibility - but I repeat - if and
when Russia's views are taken into account as those of an equal partner. I
want to stress this again and again. The situation that was laid down in the
founding principles of the United Nations - that was the situation that obtained
in the world at the end of World War Two. All right, the situation may have
changed. Let's assume there is a desire on the part of those who perceive the
change to install new mechanisms of ensuring international security. But
pretending - or proceeding from the assumption - that Russia has nothing to
do with it and trying to exclude it from this process is hardly feasible. And
when we talk about our opposition to NATO's expansion - mind you, we have
never ever declared any region of the world a zone of our special interests, I
prefer to talk about strategic partnership. Its attempts to exclude us from the
process is what causes opposition and concern on our part. But that does not
mean we are going to shut ourselves off from the rest of the world.
Isolationism is not an option.As mentioned in my previous post, Ireland is a neutral country and I stand by this status as its neutrality is part of our constitution and cannot be changed without first a referendum allowing the change. There are always two sides to every conflict, maybe not equal in credibility but nevertheless each side should get an equal hearing. If this is not to be the case there will be little if no possibility of an equitable solution...... ever!
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