Ukraine
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The military rise of China looks to me to have been facilitated by the West through their switching of manufacturing to China on a HUGE scale and at the cost of JOBS AT HOME!
This is a major fault in our type of Democracy. It can be adjusted and there are some great formulas to hand that work.
I recommend listening to Prof Richard Wolff talk about how ruinous hardcore capitalism might be brought to heal with a sprinkling of socialism. He talks about the Mondragon Cooperatives and the huge amount of success they have had in Northern Spain. One stat that stuck in my head was that the salary manager of any coop was topped at eight times the salary of the least paid worker in the coop. This still puts the manager's salary at an average of €240,000, reasonable I feel and if the manager wants more all he has to do is get the lowest paid worker's salary up. For every €1 their salary increases, his can increase by €8!
Richard Wolff on the Mondragon cooperatives
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The Russian invasion pattern:
- Invade
Ask for something you have never had
Insist and intimidate, there are always some politicians to buy or be intimidated,
Now you have something or a great share of something you never had!
This is really insane. That Red Button has turned into a modern bullying tool in the hands of insanity!
- Invade
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Just got a very disturbing news feed. 'Taoiseach Micheál Martin has called on Russian State TV to apologise for airing a clip which shows how Ireland would be completely destroyed by an underwater nuclear drone launched by one of its navy’s submarines'.
It reads, 'A Russian State TV programme, which is presented by Dmitry Kiselyov, showed a simulation of a nuclear attack on Europe, which it claims would decimate Ireland and the UK.
It claims an explosion from the 100 megatonne warhead would cause a “gigantic tsunami wave up to 500m high”.'To date I have never thought about a nuke attack coming in the form of a 500m high tsunami radio active wave over my home! I have now!!!!
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We all are rowing in the same boat. If a Nuke threat happens we all lose and politicians know that they inevitably are included in. But Putin and his media are using all their power to justify their modern-world-era bullying. If there would be a 3rd WW, it wouldn't take for a long while though.
Russia is trying to say that NATO expansion has led it to invade; misleading, total garbage... In my opinion, Russia is already defeated and these sharp-teeth performances are just a desperate try to escape the reality that sooner or later will face. -
Russia is lashing out in typical bully style, hit me and I will hit you harder so, just let me hit you 'til I want to stop or else.
Threatening everyone else is aimed at stopping assistance to resistance so they can get on with doing what they want. As the reporting has shown, they are not the all conquering military force they want to be and after this, never will be.
What does not help is the fringe media with tales of Putin having cancer and near death etc.
Should the not so united nations do more? Can they really do more than lecture the schoolboy and threaten detention? Seems not and another institution is being put under the microscope, all the carbuncles and wrinkles are plain to see. Time to work out what we put in the place of those not so united nations.
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You are right Mike.
Well, I woke up this morning not under a 500m high tsunami so was thankful for that. It plays on the mind as it was intended to do was. My daughter in NZ is following all this and told me to get my arse out there as soon as possible but I told her that if thing go pear shape its all the same where we are located.
I listened to / watched a very practical and sensible man late night, Senator Richard Black and what he said made a lot of sense. He is a senior with vast military service and experience and shoots from the hip.
He recognised that the West are as much to blame for the current situation as Putin is and he also believes / wants to see a serious replacement for the UN
Col. Richard Black: U.S. Leading World to Nuclear War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcp0TYx_eUIOne thing has crossed my mind that might help to bring the matter to a sensible and peaceful conclusion. I think there may be a possibility for China to get serious with Putin and take a lead that would put the West in the shadows. China are more interested in doing business rather than war! If Putin proceeds with his threats there will be no business done in the world with the exception of some bartering beans for bread!
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Noam Chomsky’s take on things is worth listening to. BTW, begrudgingly gives credit to Trump for coming up with a solution to much of the conflicts in the world. One thing I will say for Trump is that he was capable of rolling up his sleeves and meeting his adversaries with a view to reaching 'deal' which could result in a peaceful solution to conflicts. One instance of his approach comes to mind, his meeting with Kim! I also think that if Trump was currently in power he would have had a meeting with Putin possibly before the invasion took place and we would now be in a happier situation.
Noam Chomsky on the Russia-Ukraine war, The Media, Propaganda, Orwell, Newspeak and Language
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I patiently wait for some YT clips here explicitly blaming Ukraine (directed by Israel (for sure!), its Zionist lobby and Military–industrial complex) in warmongering. Common Mike don't be shy
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Albert Einstein said "World War IV would be fought with sticks and stones."
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It looks like Putin didn't have much to say at the 9th May parade. The Western media has been playing up a possible 'thunder and lighting' speech and I now imagine they are very disappointed with what he actually said which was very controlled.
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There was a documentary on the idiot box recently, about the fall and rise of the Japanese empire after WW1.
Devastation by WW1, the resultant world crash and flu epidemic led to Japan wanting to expand to ensure resources were available thus the action in China. Thus the US denied them the resources which meant the Japanese entered WW2 on the side of the Nazi's.
Ringing any bells?
The Japanese paid the price for their empire of the Sun and we have to make sure that the Russian and PRC also fail but where in the past losing nations have been stripped for reparations. We must ensure there is no cause celebre among the people of Russia and the PRC, so they do not get left behind in our recovery. All the better to avoid any repetition in the future.
Perhaps we could even work together toward security for everyone. Stranger things have happened.
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I see the Democrats have managed to 'decouple' relief for its own citizens in relation to Covid, from its proxy war funding! The figures involved are huge, $40 billion plus! It seems the reason for taking this action is that they want the proxy war to have priority and move through quickly!
This smacks of Imperialism at its worst and is pushing things towards inevitable nuclear brinkmanship. All it will take is a slip of the finger by man or machine and it's game over for life on Earth with the exception of a few cockroaches which will probably evolve into something more intelligent than current humans.
I used to be a Democrat supporter dating back to JFK but that position has changed in recent years since the Democrats more and more seem to be serving the Military Industrial Complex et al.
I think it's a great pity that Trump is not sitting in the White House at present. Whether one likes him or not, I think most will agree that he at least he would have made every effort to meet personally with Putin and tried to sort out some form of an acceptable 'deal' for all with the exception of the Military Industrial Complex.
I hope, probably in vain, he takes the 'bull by the horns' and makes his own arrangements to meet with Putin quickly even if protocol doesn't condone same. He should be able to do it with his own personal, tried and tested, security that he trusts.
What Putin has done is simply WRONG but the West's leaders are making no serious efforts, with the exception of Macron, who unfortunately has no major support, to open pathways to a peaceful resolution of the conflict.
I still live in hope!
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Life being tough has thought me to humiliate bad situations, and here is one:
The possible peaceful solution goes through washing-machine factories!!! If they supply enough free products and deploy to Russia, the war will definitely end immediately!
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The abiding thing for me is how Putin has thoroughly isolated Russia which will limit cooperation to the PRC and NK.
I one fell swoop he has done more than any US president has, to get european nations to pull their financial weight in NATO and unify to one end.
In the rest of the world, that would get him a putty medal and a raise.
I see the UN is still doing it's overfed, overpaid and under invested stupid people act.
I have increased my emails to the Duma and also to the UN to at least two each per diem, no more computer intrusions so I suppose they found me harmless and ignorable. They require MORE reminders of their duty. Anyone else up for it?
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I suggest to watch this movie first. If your gouverment let you.
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@srx said:
I suggest to watch this movie first. If your government let you.
https://youtu.be/ywdtmpK_AP0SRX, thanks for the link. I managed to watch the full video even with a few breakups along the way. Don't know if this is being caused or just my broadband.
I have been an admirer of Oliver Stone's work for some years, particularly the work he did on the JFK assassination. His work just provides hard provable facts and lets the viewer/listener make up their own mind.
This work, Ukraine on Fire (2016) is no different. He provides a lot of background and historic information on Ukraine which I was not aware of. I'm glad I viewed as it has broadened my perspective.
My opinion remains the same however, powers, not just political powers, outside Ukraine are at work steering a sought devastation of the country in order to progress an agenda of probable total World hegemony.
The only update that is needed to the video is in relation the the Doomsday Clock. At the time of production the clock was at 3 minutes (180 seconds) to midnight. That figure now stands at 100 seconds and I imagine that figure is decreasing as each day of carnage unfolds.
One thought that struck me while watching was the fact that Ukraine has two predominant languages, Ukrainian, the official language and Russian in much to the Eastern and Southern parts. Even though it was sought to have Russian recognised as an official language in Ukraine this did not happen.
I firmly believe that a language can be the single most uniting factor in a country. It makes for common sense if one thinks about it. People instantly understand each other which in turn leads to common ground and peaceful existence.
Countries that have different language speakers are always prone to disagreements and misunderstands. They simply are not a natural grouping. Maybe the best result for Ukraine would be a split into two semi autonomous sections, a Ukrainian speaking section and a Russian speaking section possibly with a joint executive for mutual cooperation. Probably a pipe dream!
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I cannot see that, truth is, people move across the world, it's just a fact of human life but it does not mean that those settlers can seize territory.
Do we English allow the speakers of Urdu to cede parts of the country because as a minority they feel better able to live their life it the area becomes part of India? Just part of the issue.
Tamil separatists fought for a long time because ethnic Indians had become the majority and they had lost their voice in their own country.
Does living in peace mean telling other people that we want what they have and they have to give it to us? No. Being blunt and that is how to deal with issues like this, we humans defend what is ours. I know that this is not as it seems in the news. I knew it was coming a long time ago and pointed it out to eu senior folk then.
This is why I voted to leave the eu with it's expansion at any cost and "Damn the torpedoes". I do not believe Russia the main driving force in this, I point my fingers at the PRC tbh. I am fully aware that Russia has a feeling of being pushed back into it's own back yard, surrounded by hostile nations but honestly, this feeling is paranoia and not fact. Take a look at NATO nations inability to actually pay for defence for a start. Even quite recently a situation existed where a certain eu nation did not have enough rifles or beds for it's soldiers, parts for their aircraft to fly properly and ALL of it's submarines (Yes, all SIX) were stuck pier side with serious shortages of spare parts. The minister in charge then is now the eu president. Now we have talk of the independent nations in the region being concerned enough to join NATO. Russia has achieved what US presidents have failed to do since the end of ww2.
This action has increased the isolationist state of Russia and the economy is going to crash in a way we have not seen since the great depression of the twenties. How can this be what the Russian people need?
Overall my view of this is coloured by the waste. Life does not have to be this way, we are supposed to be an intelligent species. As someone who has to fight to get medical care I view the wanton killing and destruction as a crime against humanity and the other species that have to share this planet with us. HOW much pollution has been chucked into the atmosphere? HOW much crap put into the water table? HOW many bodies left to rot on the ground because they cannot be retrieved?
There was a television program a long time ago now "Angry old gits", they complained about stuff done for this, that and nothing and I am afraid I am now a fully paid up member. Goes feeling aggrieved at the existence of another nation mean our soldiers can go in and shoot civilians whenever we feel like it? Is THAT how Russia wants to tell the world how badly they feel let down? Do Russians think that is something the world will listen to?
People, real people across the world will have their lives shortened by this, will find the cost of living too much, not be able to feed themselves or their kids, be unable to heat their homes - if they have them. Damn something, the torpedoes are a LONG way down the list.
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@srx said:
I suggest to watch this movie first. If your gouverment let you.
Let me guess.. Western elites (Rothschilds) set up color neo-nazi revolution in Ukraine in order to take away from great russia it's sovereign right to rape, execute and burn to ashes its neighbors.
Exactly like they stole this right from the people of great serbia back in 1999.
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I have an eye on Finland's decisions. I think, attending NATO or not will have a crucial impact on the war result or even Russia's destiny.
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If Russia continues on this path their future will be as a PRC satellite. Something I doubt many of them spotted on the horizon.
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