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    • medeekM Offline
      medeek
      last edited by

      I've been thinking about the First and Second Menu and here is my latest revision:

      First Menu:

      1.) Wall Mode: Line, Polyline
      2.) Wall Type: Exterior, Interior
      3.) Wall Justification: Front, Center, Back
      4.) Wall Height (in.): 97
      5.) Wall Header Height (in.): 80
      6.) Stud Size: 2x2, 2x3, 2x4, 2x6, 2x8, 2x10, 2x12, CUSTOM
      7.) Stud Spacing (in.): 12,16,19.2,24,32,48, CUSTOM
      8.) Stud Direction: Left, Right
      9.) Start Corner: End, Outside Corner, Inset Outside Corner, Inside Corner, Inset Inside Corner
      10.) End Corner: End, Outside Corner, Inset Outside Corner, Inside Corner, Inset Inside Corner
      11.) Top Plate: 1,2,3
      12.) Top Plate Thickness (in.): 1.5
      13.) Bottom Plate: 1,2,3
      14.) Bottom Plate Thickness (in.): 1.5
      15.) Adv. Wall Options: YES,NO

      Second Menu (Adv. Wall Options):

      1.) Wall Sheathing: YES,NO
      2.) Sheathing Thickness: 3/8,7/16,15/32,1/2,19/32,5/8,23/32,3/4
      3.) Wall Cladding: YES,NO
      4.) Cladding Thickness: 3/8,7/16,15/32,1/2,19/32,5/8,23/32,3/4
      5.) Wall Gypsum: YES,NO
      6.) Gypsum Thickness: 1/4,3/8,1/2,5/8
      7.) Wall Insulation: YES,NO
      8.) Insulation Type: PINK FIBERGLASS, YELLOW FIBERGLASS, BLOWN FIBERGLASS, ROCKWOOL, CELLULOSE
      9.) Corner Framing: California, 3 Stud, 2 Stud etc...
      10.) Holdowns: YES.NO

      Note that I have eliminated the Corner offset. The amount of offset will be driven by the stud depth, however in the actual wall library (store parameters) I will include the offset for both start and end so that they can be edited independently. Right from the get go I will set this up so that one can right click on the wall panel and instantly edit any of these settings as well as add or remove window and door openings.

      I'm also going to add in a holdowns advanced option which will then trigger a sub-menu which will allow one to place holdowns at each end of the wall segment.

      The holdowns sub-menu (subject to change) will include the following parameters:

      HOLDOWNS MENU:

      1.) Holdown Type: DTT2Z, HDU2, HDU4, HDU5, STHD14, STHD14RJ, etc... (also straps ie. MSTC)
      2.) Holdown Vertical Offset (in.): 0 (this allows the ability to fine tune the placement)
      3.) Holdown Anchor Bolt: None, SB58-24, SB78-24, SB1-30, SSTB16, SSTB20, SSTB24, SSTB28, SSTB34, SSTB36, THD Rod, SB + THD Rod, SSTB + THD Rod (this parameter will be applied only if holdown type requires an anchor bolt)
      4.) THD Rod Length (in.): 24 (this parameter applied only if an option with THD Rod is selected
      5.) Holdown Placement: Start, End, Both
      6.) Holdown Strap Placement: Framing, Sheathing

      The anchor bolt options that include a threaded rod with the anchor bolt will also include the appropriate coupler nut based on the size of the anchor bolt chosen: CNW58, CNW78, CNW1

      Additionally the threaded rod diameter will be based on the holdown chosen.

      As you can see there is going to be a considerable amount of logic that determines the sizing of these components.

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • medeekM Offline
        medeek
        last edited by

        The corner framing for each end of the wall panel can be set in the advanced options as well as in the global settings (default value).

        This parameter can also become very important when holdowns are specified especially large capacity ones like an HDU11 or HDU14.

        In these cases the end stud might be a combination of nail laminated studs (ie. 3 - 2x6) or a solid post like a 6x6 DF No. 2 timber.

        There is a multitude of ways to frame a corner:

        http://design.medeek.com/resources/framing/FRAMING_CORNERS.jpg

        http://design.medeek.com/resources/framing/FRAMING_CORNERS.pdf

        The most popular of which is probably the california corner (Detail #1)

        To start I will probably go with the following options for corner framing:

        • California Corner
        • 1 Stud
        • 2 Stud
        • 3 Stud
        • 4 Stud
        • 4x Post
        • 6x Post

        When the corner is an inset or end variant it will default to a 1 Stud corner, otherwise it will default to a California Corner or whatever is specified in the global settings as the preferred corner treatment.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • pbacotP Offline
          pbacot
          last edited by

          Sometimes the filler studs are in fact 3-4 short blocks distributed top to bottom.

          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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          • D Offline
            dpaul
            last edited by

            Good to see traction on this essential plugin.....!
            Can you tell us how you intend to cut in for windows and doors, and will we be able to use anyone else's
            win/door plugin to work with your wall tool?
            Cheers.
            David

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            • medeekM Offline
              medeek
              last edited by

              Working in earnest on this plugin now. I've also decided to create a system where walls can be grouped. So that if you alter the height of one wall segment it will automatically adjust the height of the other wall segments within that group.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • medeekM Offline
                medeek
                last edited by

                Just a moment...

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                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • M Offline
                  MtnArch
                  last edited by

                  @medeek said:

                  Just a moment...

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                  Added my pledge! Looking forward to this one!!

                  Highest Regards,

                  Alan T. Hendry, RA
                  Architect

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                  • medeekM Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by

                    I've added a few FAQs here:

                    Just a moment...

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                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • medeekM Offline
                      medeek
                      last edited by

                      The default layers for the plugin will be the following:

                      WALL LAYERS:
                      wall_frame
                      wall_sheath
                      wall_clad
                      wall_trim
                      wall_gypsum
                      wall_insul

                      MISC LAYERS
                      wall_hardware (straps and holdowns)

                      If one want more granular control over the wall framing layers then the option will exist in the global settings to enable "advanced wall framing layers":

                      ADV. WALL FRAMING LAYERS (ON/OFF)
                      wall_header
                      wall_plate
                      wall_beam
                      wall_column
                      wall_king
                      wall_trimmer

                      I'm sure there will be other layers that will need to be added but these are the ones I've come up with for now.

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • medeekM Offline
                        medeek
                        last edited by

                        Global settings:: Layer Tab:

                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su6_800.jpg

                        The Kickstarter campaign has met its goal of $2,500.00. I will be working on the wall plugin full time for the next month or two, until I have released the first public release of this new plugin.

                        I would like to thank all who have pledged and supported the campaign and also those who may yet support the campaign.

                        I am making solid progress on the Wall Plugin. All of the framework is now in place and the backend progamming (shopping cart, database, icons, images etc...) is now also complete.

                        My ETA for the plugin is mid June but I think I will probably beat that self imposed deadline if I can keep at it full time like I have the last few days.

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                        • jujuJ Offline
                          juju
                          last edited by

                          It’s great to see that you’re sticking to the ability to customize the layers where the various groups/components will be placed.

                          Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                          • medeekM Offline
                            medeek
                            last edited by

                            @juju said:

                            It’s great to see that you’re sticking to the ability to customize the layers where the various groups/components will be placed.

                            I'm doing my best to stay consistent with the truss plugin and provide as many parallel features and also learn from my successes and failures.

                            When the Wall Plugin is released it should be on par with the truss plugin, at least this is my objective.

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                            • medeekM Offline
                              medeek
                              last edited by

                              The first menu for the rectangular wall tool, metric version is also complete (not shown):

                              http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su7_800.jpg

                              I've modifed the wall type parameter to include the following (3) options:

                              Int-Int
                              Int-Ext
                              Ext-Ext

                              I am still thinking about how best to accommodate custom stud sizes. I may make it possible to enter in custom sizes in the global settings so they can be permanently stored. I prefer that the wall dialogues simply show a stud size rather than breaking it down into depth and width, but ultimately those two dimensions are what is being controlled here.

                              Working on the positioning tool portion, I will borrow from the timber truss module of the truss plugin to accelerate this coding task. Also working on the advanced wall options and its menus etc...

                              Please let me know if you see something important that I am missing or if something can be made better. I am always open to suggestion.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                              • medeekM Offline
                                medeek
                                last edited by

                                In the global settings you can enable a 3D preview:

                                http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su8_800.jpg

                                The 2D preview is default, which just shows the footprint of the wall.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                • medeekM Offline
                                  medeek
                                  last edited by

                                  Within the global settings and also when you edit a wall you will be able to modify the corner treatment at the start and end of each wall segment, the parameters being:

                                  Corner Stud Qty: 1,2,3,4
                                  Corner Stud Thk. (in.): 1.5 (default), can be user defined to any value
                                  Corner Treatment: California, None, etc...
                                  Corner Angle (deg.): 90, can be user defined, 0 < x < 180
                                  Corner Configuration: End, Outside Corner etc...
                                  Corner Offset (in.): Stud Depth or numeric value (ie. 3.5, 5.5 7.25 etc...)

                                  This will allow the user to utilize any combination of studs or timbers at each corner (ie. a 6x6 post) for a wall segment needing some serious shearwall action.

                                  When you create a wall these three parameters will not be shown and will pass through from the global settings. If a wall needs to be modified then a simple right click and "edit wall assembly" will allow for changing up these settings for either end of the wall segment independently.

                                  If holdowns are enabled then the placement of the holdowns (ie. HDU series) will be modified appropriately to rest against the innermost corner stud surface.

                                  In addition to framed openings (ie. windows and doors) there may also be other misc. items associated with a wall segment:

                                  • Wall Columns
                                  • Beam Pockets
                                  • Additional holdowns/straps for shearwall segments within a given wall
                                  • Additional framing where a wall meets another wall mid-length (T intersection).

                                  I will give these items some more thought as the development progresses and determine the best way to add these items into the UI.

                                  As I imagined the complexity that can occur when framing a structure only gets more interesting the farther down the rabbit hole I go.

                                  P.S. The numbers of parameters just grew from four to six, this now addresses non-orthogonal walls.

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                  • medeekM Offline
                                    medeek
                                    last edited by

                                    Global Settings:: Wall Corners:

                                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su9_800.jpg

                                    Within this tab the user can set the defaults for the wall corners.

                                    These same settings can also be set for each wall segment with the "edit wall" tool.

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                    • FrederikF Offline
                                      Frederik
                                      last edited by

                                      This looks really interesting, however, when trying to download the trial version on your website (http://design.medeek.com/resources/medeekwallplugin.html) I get a "The page cannot be found" message...?!?

                                      Furthermore there's another serious mistake on the page...

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      Purchase the full plugin ($5.00) at the following link:Purchase plugin

                                      When users arrive at the order page, they don't see the price 5.00 USD, but 50.00 USD...

                                      Cheers
                                      Kim Frederik

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                                      • medeekM Offline
                                        medeek
                                        last edited by

                                        I should probably temporarily disable the web page since the plugin has not yet been released yet, and yes you are correct, the listed price of $5.00 is incorrect.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • medeekM Offline
                                          medeek
                                          last edited by

                                          I am now testing the stud placement and top and bottom plates:

                                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su10_800.jpg

                                          So far only the line tool is available but seems to work fairly robustly now.

                                          Please download and comment on the model below:

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                                          There are a few minor issues that need further attention:

                                          1.) How to position studs with non-orthogonal walls, I could use some direction on this.
                                          2.) I have California Corners enabled for outside corner and inside corners, what do you do when there is a clash between the nailer and the regular stud layout, see model for examples.
                                          3.) When there is more than one top plate (2,3 etc...) I have them setup to lap each other. However multiple bottom plates do not lap, they are currently setup just to stack.

                                          The items for tomorrow's programming todo list are:

                                          • Setup the HTML form and backend for the wall edit feature.
                                          • Finish cleaning up the global settings, HTML and backend.
                                          • Further debugging and refinement of the stud placement module.

                                          Future items:

                                          • Addition of window and door modules (framed openings)
                                          • Advanced wall options (sheathing, cladding, gypsum, insulation, trim, holdowns etc...)
                                          • Window and Door Plugin
                                          • Gable Wall Tool
                                          • Polyline tool for Rectangular Wall Tool

                                          I'm sure there are plenty of other items that don't come to mind right this minute, please feel free to pass along any thoughts, comments or suggestions.

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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                                          • medeekM Offline
                                            medeek
                                            last edited by

                                            Working on the advanced options this morning, I've added in sheathing, cladding and gypsum:

                                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su11_800.jpg

                                            As windows and doors are added to the wall they will automatically cut holes into the framing and these three other building layers. The code to cut holes in solids is actually not to difficult, I developed it with the foundation plugin when I needed to add foundation vents into stemwalls.

                                            I will probably put the cavity insulation and the holdowns on the backburner for a a while as I focus on the wall edit function and the window and door (framed opening) module.

                                            I've also added one additional (Tee Corner) corner configuration for each end of the wall.

                                            I will also be adding in two additional parameters so when you edit a given wall panel you can offset the sheathing and cladding above or below the actual wall panel to tie into a rim joist above or below. Some contractors also like to lap the sheathing and cladding over the foundation rather than having it flush with the sill/bottom plate.

                                            On a similar note it might also be useful to allow the user to set the bottom plate as pressure treated (ie. garages where the wall is directly in contact with the foundation). I'm not sure yet where I want to put this parameter.

                                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                                            design.medeek.com

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