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    • medeekM Offline
      medeek
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      I've added a callout option so that when the designer is in the 2D mode the window and door sizes and types are called out:

      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su65_800.jpg

      This particular option can only be set in the global settings.

      One thing to note is that the door handedness and the window type are only in the callout if the user has specified a particular door or window type to install. If the advanced options are not enabled then only the opening size will be displayed (ie. 3068 vs. 3068LH or 3040 vs. 3040SH).

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • pbacotP Offline
        pbacot
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        That's nice! I've had a CAD program for decades that has never added this simple feature. Often we go to schedules with a symbol or more detailed info on the plan but during design this would be great so anyone (including yourself) can look at the drawing or model and know what size is drawn. As for handedness, I don't like to put it on the plans. I am convinced that people just don't agree what it means. I can quickly find a diagram online that shows it opposite from what you show. Great additions though! Thanks!

        I know the lines dividing the different wall lines relate to framing or modeling in your case but traditionally there are no lines drawn at the wall intersections in plan.

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        • medeekM Offline
          medeek
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          @pbacot said:

          That's nice! I've had a CAD program for decades that has never added this simple feature. Often we go to schedules with a symbol or more detailed info on the plan but during design this would be great so anyone (including yourself) can look at the drawing or model and know what size is drawn. As for handedness, I don't like to put it on the plans. I am convinced that people just don't agree what it means. I can quickly find a diagram online that shows it opposite from what you show. Great additions though! Thanks!

          I know the lines dividing the different wall lines relate to framing or modeling in your case but traditionally there are no lines drawn at the wall intersections in plan.

          The 2D mode is really designed as lightweight schematic of the model layout rather than a final floor plan for construction documents.

          Walls are divided up by segments and hence they are represented as separate structures even in 2D. At some point I will probably provide a feature which will allow the user to generate a full on floor plan that will be setup for bringing all of the data into layout or some other CAD engine for final construction document creation.

          When it comes to generating 2D documents I still go to AutoCAD even though Layout does exist and continues to get stronger. For that reason I think it may be useful to have an automated DXF export function builtin at some point, that cleans up the drawing nicely and gives the user exactly what they need to prepare the floor plan.

          I haven't shown any interior walls yet in any of these examples, but the idea there is they will be shaded a different color than the exterior walls so that the user can quickly differentiate between the two in the 2D mode.

          I agree the handedness is a bit of a pain in the butt, and you are correct that there seems to be varying definitions of which is the correct way of designating this. I may eliminate the handedness altogether, besides the graphic clearly shows the swing of the door.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • facerF Offline
            facer
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            Medeek,
            In response to your statement:
            I may eliminate the handedness altogether, besides the graphic clearly shows the swing of the door.

            I can confirm that naming the handing or "handedness" over several years of door scheduling for architectural firms supports your view.

            However πŸ˜„ when dealing with computer designed buildings
            naming the handing allows for computer checking of the door hardware, building code requirements,
            and building standards. This is applicable to medium to large scale buildings presently, but as
            computers evolve on their merry exponential curve of application it could be applied to smaller projects in the near future. (3-6 years is my guess)

            I suggest completing your first version of the software allowing for future updates when and if there is a demand for a handing function for the particular market that will be using SketchUp for documentation in the near future.

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            • medeekM Offline
              medeek
              last edited by

              A preview of the Polyline Wall Creation Tool and Auto-Corner Configuration:

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • medeekM Offline
                medeek
                last edited by

                Another test of the wall plugin combined with the foundation and truss plugin.

                http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su66_800.jpg

                The wall plugin is now in better shape than the truss plugin since no manual edits are required and all the windows and doors are fully parametric.

                However note that the interior walls and garage doors are still missing, more work yet to be done.

                http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su67_800.jpg

                http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su68_800.jpg

                View model here:

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                After spending the last month on this new plugin I can see where the other two plugins have room for some serious improvement, I've really got my work cut out for me.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
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                  A true house turnkey solution! 😎

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                  My Little site :)

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                  • Bob JamesB Offline
                    Bob James
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                    Getting REALLY anxious to give it a try. 😎

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                    • medeekM Offline
                      medeek
                      last edited by

                      My biggest concern right now is that it is stable and runs rock solid. I have a fair bit more testing and I'm sure debugging and optimization ahead of me in the next few days.

                      wall_move_preview1.gif

                      The wall move tool is working quite well, I just need to make sure the corners stay "glued" now. Click on image to view GIF animation.

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • medeekM Offline
                        medeek
                        last edited by

                        wall_move_preview2.gif

                        Progress has been made but I'm still working out a few kinks.

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                        • FrederikF Offline
                          Frederik
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                          It looks very promising...! πŸ‘

                          Cheers
                          Kim Frederik

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                          • medeekM Offline
                            medeek
                            last edited by

                            @frederik said:

                            It looks very promising...! πŸ‘

                            Thank-you for the vote of confidence. I'm sure the initial release will have its list of limitations and bugs but it certainly is a start in the right direction. Just remember it is just me programming this thing, I don't have a whole team of professional programmers working behind the scenes, creating the magic.

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                            • medeekM Offline
                              medeek
                              last edited by

                              One of many wall move permutations that must be considered:

                              https://discourse-cdn-sjc1.com/sketchup/uploads/default/optimized/3X/b/1/b17e9d610b6fe246adefaabd2c340fc00fb957dc_1_566x499.gif

                              I also still need to fully vett the non-orthogonal wall possibilities, this is exhausting work.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                              • medeekM Offline
                                medeek
                                last edited by

                                Orthogonal walls are now pretty solid, onto non-orthogonals.

                                As I'm testing this feature out it occurred to me that it might be useful to have the ability to move just one corner of a wall, this would allow for the changing of angles between walls. I have added this feature to the "todo" list for future consideration.

                                Along with the split wall function it would also be useful to have a fuse or join wall function, where two wall panel that are inline with each other and butting up can be joined into a single wall panel.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                • FrederikF Offline
                                  Frederik
                                  last edited by

                                  @medeek said:

                                  Just remember it is just me programming this thing, I don't have a whole team of professional programmers working behind the scenes, creating the magic.

                                  Yes, I'm fully aware which makes this even more impressive... πŸ‘

                                  Cheers
                                  Kim Frederik

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                                  • medeekM Offline
                                    medeek
                                    last edited by

                                    A preview of the Wall Move Tool:

                                    View Model here:

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                                    The primary items left to do before the release are:

                                    • Interior Walls
                                    • Global Settings (update)
                                    • Web Page (update)

                                    I will start on interior walls tomorrow.

                                    I also have some additional testing to do with the no framing option to make sure it is working seamlessly with the other modes (2D and 3D).

                                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su70_800.jpg

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                    • Bob JamesB Offline
                                      Bob James
                                      last edited by

                                      Nathaniel,

                                      Looking Good!

                                      Will the door tool handle double doors (i.e. a house entry composed of two separate doors.)?

                                      And closet sliding doors?

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                                      • medeekM Offline
                                        medeek
                                        last edited by

                                        @bob james said:

                                        Nathaniel,

                                        Looking Good!

                                        Will the door tool handle double doors (i.e. a house entry composed of two separate doors.)?

                                        And closet sliding doors?

                                        Right now the door types are limited but yes I plan on adding all the various door types:

                                        • sliding
                                        • pocket
                                        • bifold
                                          etc...

                                        In that regard I am also very interested in working with other plugin authors to somehow integrate other door and window plugins so that they can work seamlessly with the wall plugin. In order for this to work correctly I will need to setup a simple system that sends a signal to the third party window/door plugin letting it know if the opening size or location has changed that way the windows and doors will stay synchronized with the wall model and automatically move with it.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • medeekM Offline
                                          medeek
                                          last edited by

                                          As I'm working on interior walls today it occurred to me that just as I've provided for a trim option with exterior walls I also need to provide an interior trim option for both interior (int-int) walls and exterior walls (int-ext).

                                          I've added in one extra option in the advanced wall options to toggle interior trim. I will probably not full flesh this out until after the plugin release but interior trim will probably deal with the following key elements/options:

                                          • Baseboard
                                          • Crown Molding
                                          • Chair Rail
                                          • Wainscot

                                          http://xboxhut.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/craftsman-house-interior-trim-scandinavian-compact.jpg

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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                                          • jujuJ Offline
                                            juju
                                            last edited by

                                            Nathaniel, I don't know if you should be putting those finishing trims in the plugin. So many variables and options, probably better if those were left to the designer to dictate / complete as per their design wishes?

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