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    • tuna1957T Offline
      tuna1957
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      ditto what pbacot said. a few comments, the corner of the windows still catches my eye first, then I go to the various objects in the room. Pick the object that you want to be the focal point and adjust your view so that is what the eye is drawn to first. I'd increase the field of view some so you have more of the left side of the scene in view. I'd try lowering the eye height a little maybe. It just take trying different angles and such until you hit that sweet spot. Keep experimenting .... πŸ‘

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        garystan
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        @pbacot said:

        Good work! Feeling much better with piano etc. The exterior picture is the wrong perspective for the room. You'd want the horizon lower and the vanishing points sort of going along with the window grid.

        pbacot :

                    I wasn't sure about where to set the horizon.  I didn't want to give the impression that the room was high up.  As for the pic itself.......I wasn't sure about that either.   Thanks for your comments (advice).
                                                                        garystan
        
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          garystan
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          @tuna1957 said:

          ditto what pbacot said. a few comments, the corner of the windows still catches my eye first, then I go to the various objects in the room. Pick the object that you want to be the focal point and adjust your view so that is what the eye is drawn to first. I'd increase the field of view some so you have more of the left side of the scene in view. I'd try lowering the eye height a little maybe. It just take trying different angles and such until you hit that sweet spot. Keep experimenting .... πŸ‘

                tuna1957 :
          
                            Taking a closer (and second) look at it.  Yeah.....I think you're right about the perpsecive of the background.  I take it......this part of the learning process.....
          
                                                                               garystan
          
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          • pbacotP Offline
            pbacot
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            @garystan said:

            @pbacot said:

            Good work! Feeling much better with piano etc. The exterior picture is the wrong perspective for the room. You'd want the horizon lower and the vanishing points sort of going along with the window grid.

            pbacot :

                        I wasn't sure about where to set the horizon.  I didn't want to give the impression that the room was high up.  As for the pic itself.......I wasn't sure about that either.   Thanks for your comments (advice).
                                                                            garystan
            

            If you look at the window sill and the horizontal muntins, the lines converge in the area of the lower panes, so the eye level of the viewer is somewhere in the lower pane, and the horizon would be there, not in the upper pane.

            WOOPS I edited the wrong post. The picture should go here.


            Screen Shot 2016-07-07 at 12.23.29 PM.png

            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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            • pbacotP Offline
              pbacot
              last edited by

              Good work! Feeling much better with piano etc. The exterior picture is the wrong perspective for the room. You'd want the horizon lower and the vanishing points sort of going along with the window grid.

              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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              • tuna1957T Offline
                tuna1957
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                garystan, just want to reinforce I'm in no way knocking your efforts. By gosh your trying and asking questions and that's how you get better. Was a little bored last night so threw together an example model to try and better express some of the things I was saying. Have no idea the exact dimensions of your room so just sort of tried to get reasonably close. Just put representations of the 3 main elements. Killed the color as it was a little distracting from what I was trying to show. The piano is a concert grand and very close to real world dimensions. Lowered eye height and set F.O.V.to 45 degrees. My point is don't be afraid to experiment ... keep up your efforts πŸ‘


                piano room.jpg

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                • jo-keJ Offline
                  jo-ke
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                  Horizont of outside exterior is always tricky.

                  I usually set a 360Β° pano as background, so I don't have to worry about the horizont. It always matches. wherever your viewpoint is.

                  Here's an example (Have a look at exterior):

                  http://www.zz7.de

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                    garystan
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                    To : tuna1957
                    Mike Amos
                    pbacot
                    pilou :

                                      Thanks for your advice guys.  I did a  re-do (for the Xth time) of Piano Room.  I think I got it this time.
                                                                   garystan
                    

                    Piano Room II Small.jpg

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                      garystan
                      last edited by

                      @jo-ke said:

                      Horizont of outside exterior is always tricky.

                      I usually set a 360Β° pano as background, so I don't have to worry about the horizont. It always matches. wherever your viewpoint is.

                      Here's an example (Have a look at exterior):

                      jo-ke :

                            Do you mean a  360 degree panoramic background ?  Could you explain more about this ?   And how do I go about setting up a 360 degree background. Where do I find it ?  Sorry about all the questions.  But, this does sound interesting.
                                                                                      garystan
                      
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                      • pbacotP Offline
                        pbacot
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                        Nice one, elegant looking!

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                        • jo-keJ Offline
                          jo-ke
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                          It depends on the render engine.

                          I am using twilight render. I could explain it for this app.

                          http://www.zz7.de

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                          • ntxdaveN Offline
                            ntxdave
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                            @jo-ke said:

                            It depends on the render engine.

                            I am using twilight render. I could explain it for this app.

                            Please do. I have Twilight and would like to know more about how to do that. I will then have to try to find some suitable images to use in a 360 environment.

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                            • jo-keJ Offline
                              jo-ke
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                              The backgroundimage should be an equirectangular panorama in aspect ratio 1:2 like these: https://www.flickr.com/photos/gadl/sets/72157604695660345/

                              In twilight choose the backgroundsettings, take spherical background. Decide if the sun is on or of.


                              Unbenannt-4.jpg

                              http://www.zz7.de

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                                garystan
                                last edited by

                                @tuna1957 said:

                                garystan, just want to reinforce I'm in no way knocking your efforts. By gosh your trying and asking questions and that's how you get better. Was a little bored last night so threw together an example model to try and better express some of the things I was saying. Have no idea the exact dimensions of your room so just sort of tried to get reasonably close. Just put representations of the 3 main elements. Killed the color as it was a little distracting from what I was trying to show. The piano is a concert grand and very close to real world dimensions. Lowered eye height and set F.O.V.to 45 degrees. My point is don't be afraid to experiment ... keep up your efforts πŸ‘

                                tuna1957 :

                                              Thanks for your advice.  I'll definitely keep your advice in mind.
                                                             
                                                                                                    garystan
                                
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                                • ntxdaveN Offline
                                  ntxdave
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                                  @jo-ke said:

                                  The backgroundimage should be an equirectangular panorama in aspect ratio 1:2 like these: https://www.flickr.com/photos/gadl/sets/72157604695660345/

                                  In twilight choose the backgroundsettings, take spherical background. Decide if the sun is on or of.

                                  Thanks for sharing this link. I downloaded one just to try it out and it is very interesting. Just wish I could find some that would work well with my car washes. Especially cities or neighborhoods in the US.

                                  Would love to find a source of US oriented images like these.

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