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Can anyone say subscription based pricing? First thing I thought when I saw this, "oh no, they are setting up for a cloud-based, subscription-based business model ala Adobe."
Sure hope I'm wrong!
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@otb designworks said:
Can anyone say subscription based pricing? First thing I thought when I saw this, "oh no, they are setting up for a cloud-based, subscription-based business model ala Adobe."
Sure hope I'm wrong!
yep, me too, I hope that isn't the case either...
I wish the devs would stop pushing resources in providing product we didn't ask for and rather allocate those to developing/fixing the product we already have/use/love.
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+1 Juju. I couldn't agree more.
Until I can group and organize my Layers Palette, they should work on nothing but, imho.
I feel the same way about the new inferencing engine they incorporated into 2016. I hate it. Snapping on small circles (like a ton of bolts) is a giant pain now since you get two inference dots and two dotted lines and you really have no idea what you are snapping unless you zoom in much further than you used to have to. It's very annoying and again, a solution to a nonexistent problem.
And how about clipping? Be nice if they did something about that which we have suffered with since day 1.
And call me crazy, but push/pull just doesn't erase faces like it use to. And, most annoyingly, it is inconsistent in which faces it does erase. Big time waster.
But hey, let's put our resources into a cloud-based app...I can almost guarantee it's going to be subscription-based. Why else would they have even bothered with developing a browser based app in the first place if it was;t in a drive to get the software out of our hands. sigh...
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my.sketchup has a lot of missing sketchup features. I wouldn't be surprised if it would be part of the pro subscription. Trimble has a free account and my.Sketchup could tighten the link to that account.
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I wonder as to why they created this (instead a fixing problems like the clipping issue). Would this be an answer to all requests for a Linux version? Without Ruby plugins a lot of people (including me) wouldn't be using SketchUp though. Still-signed up and curious.
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Some of the setup they show might be good ideas to go into the REAL SketchUp. Personally I really don't have time to look into this, and I think a ho-hum response from users might get the message across, like "Oh thanks, but what about that old, old thing where SketchUp just hangs because I added tree."--that's going to be better on the internet?
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Too early to judge, not sure how it fits into a larger goal or plan. Perhaps some basecamp attendees could fill us in.
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I think, to not develop an entry level web version for schools and new comers would sound death nell for SU...
It could even replace 'Make' entirely and become the free version of the future...
Commercial usage could be bundled with the Pro licence and come in handy when your on the road, etc...
there is always cross fertilisation from seemingly divergent paths and in the long run SU 'desktop' will benefit from the swelling of staff and resources required for this endeavour...
my 2 pence...
john
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besides the time spirit having everything online/in-the-cloud and with Tinkercad bought by Autodesk, Trimble maybe felt the need to have something comparable in this area... and to extent Trimble Connect of course.
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Dave will be happy !
@unknownuser said:
SketchUp Make and SketchUp Pro use Extensions using Ruby for adding functionality. This isn’t available in my.sketchup at this time
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I thought it might give me the ability to look at 2015 and 2016 models but it says it's not compatible with my version of Chrome and, on IE, I just get a blank screen.
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ZEN!
All to re-learn! Funny the half radial tool menus!
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A question : as each user can have free 10 Gigas, does it easy to manage several millions of users stockage?
Else no PushPull multiple?
ELse works like a charm!
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Saw the demo @ Basecamp... for me the use case on this could be linked to a Trimble account IF models could be locked / prevent modification or download. I do ALOT of communication with owners / clients / architects / engineers. I rarely send my SKP model, and usually use PDF and use Sketchfab... if I were to have the option of inviting someone to a model (ALA DropBox) but having that model locked, but with the same scenes, colors, materials, etc... then I can see it replacing or augmenting my current flow. Having a platform so someone doesn't need to load software is a good thing...
And, the Devs at Basecamp said this was a huge push into furthering the '3d for Everyone' - Chromebooks were the use case mentioned - but it runs in any modern browser that can handle WebGL... so schools, maker spaces, etc. etc...
From that perspective I think its a good place to spend some resources - I remember back in the day trying to find ways to use and learn AutoCAD and Photoshop / Adobe suite of tools and not having the $$ to even get my toes wet. This seems to me to be a way to work towards the goal of getting people using the tools at all levels - from K-12 on the web, Make for the DIYr, and Pro for the professional.
Yes, I want more resources spent on layers, better Pro tools, LayOut, etc. etc.
But as discussed with some of the SKP team at Basecamp - they are really starting to feel like they are rebounding from the neglect they felt during the Google years, and from the keynote it seems that Trimble is in full support (I believe their CEO was even in the audience) of integrating SKP into their portfolio of tools, as well as letting the team grow out the product.Yes, there are lots of gripes we can have with the software and any choice the dev team makes... (I want more building design, architectural design tools and more focus on LayOut - someone else might want more surface / NURBS, etc. tools., etc. etc... it can go on and on...) - but I think and hope that after talking to many of the SKP folks from devs to product managers they have a good roadmap in place, and we'll see some good stuff coming down the pipe... maybe not everything we always wanted, but certainly steady progression of tools that build on the '3d for Everyone' roadmap.
For me, I'm just thrilled that the SKP team fought off death by Google, and escaped being acquired by AutoDeath, and that from what I've seen and heard it looks like Trimble has been and will continue to be a good partner for the team.
Yes, the basecamp kool aid is starting to wear off, but in reality - what other simple software package is open enough to be able to handle so so many different kids of work and workflows? And be approachable by kids and adults, from schools to professional firms?
To me, SKP is a smart(er) pencil, and one that keeps getting better due to the community around it, and the really over dedicated staff and devs that keep it alive and growing. But its just a pencil. How you sharpen it, what you draw on, and what you draw with are just as important as the base toolset...
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Seems good so far. Running on FireFox 47 really well. I have an Asus Chromebook at home that I will try it with tonight. Having SU run on it would be so sweet.
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I think the target audience is educators. With many schools adopting the Chromebooks as standard issue, this is the ideal way to plant the sketchup seed. Due to current limitations on internet access, consistent band width, this is in no way a replacement for Sketchup Pro.
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Well I played with it a while on my son's Chomebook and I must say it was pretty smooth. I built a small house exterior and noticed no slow down at all. I will do a bit more playing with it but so far it seems to be a great addition.
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