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    Garry K
    last edited by 17 Apr 2016, 16:02

    I have been asked by a number of architects and designers to create a Window Maker plugin along the same style as Door Maker and Cab Maker.

    Door Maker will also go through a rewrite so that it uses the same look and feel as Cab Maker.

    The idea is to provide windows that are very light weight but still gives you thousands of permutations and combinations. The interact tool will work with the windows.

    The styles of windows that will be included are:

    Fixed
    Awning
    Fixed over Awning
    Casement
    Fixed beside Casement
    Horizontal Sliders
    Single
    Double Hung
    Eyebrow
    Half Circle
    Octagon
    Round

    As with door maker you will be able to provide your own profiles. That means vinyl, aluminum or wood profiles will be available.

    If anyone has any request now is the time for discussion.

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      Bob James
      last edited by 17 Apr 2016, 16:17

      Horizontal Sliders with "replacement windows" wide frames πŸ˜„

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        Garry K
        last edited by 17 Apr 2016, 16:31

        Frame size will be controlled by parameters and or profiles. What do you mean by "replacement windows"

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          Garry K
          last edited by 17 Apr 2016, 17:05

          I have someone interested in similar window features to that found in "Chief Architect".

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            Bob James
            last edited by 17 Apr 2016, 21:54

            @garry k said:

            Frame size will be controlled by parameters and or profiles. What do you mean by "replacement windows"

            We had all of the original windows in our house removed and replacements were slid into the openings. They have about a 2" external flange

            Replacement.png

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              pbacot
              last edited by 17 Apr 2016, 22:17

              Some residential/light commercial projects use wood windows and some use vinyl or aluminum. The look, size of components and construction are different. (But I'd let vinyl pass for aluminum in most models.) If you look at the 3dw there are some dynamic components by Milgard that actually work nicely. They have a screen too. They aren't realistic for close up renders but are handy for realistic exteriors.

              Usually I make components to include the trim. Obviously there are all sorts of trim options...So I guess in this case, one could use your windows to put into the component that has the trim too, maybe even the curtains. I'd not use a plugin to put in one window at a time then go around and put the trim on each one--if you know what I mean. I make all the features that a window will have then use that component for all those window types in a model. What I mean is some tools stress the importance to "plug" right into the model and it doesn't always work that way.

              Of course it would be really cool if the trim style changed on a project to have way to change it all and not have to modify each window type (each window component).

              As for window options. Do your doors have transoms and sidelights? Did I miss that tool?

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                KrisM
                last edited by 17 Apr 2016, 22:19

                Single rake, double rake.

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                  ccaponigro
                  last edited by 17 Apr 2016, 22:24

                  I think one of the last hurdles to construction documents from Sketchup is door and window schedule generation from the model? Especially if they could include Objects modeled out side the plugin. Infinite control over grills would be a big plus.

                  I would add that it's important to keep frame geometry simple and generic. I just don't think having al the geometry of aluminum extrusions etc. is required or beneficial for computer performance.


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                    pilou
                    last edited by 17 Apr 2016, 23:05

                    Seems all that is yet made! πŸ˜‰ (for classical forms)
                    Must be soon released!

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                      Garry K
                      last edited by 17 Apr 2016, 23:29

                      There are a lot of architects that have very large models and need plugins that produce low poly counts, are really quick, and are very kind when it comes to memory usage.

                      My plugins such as cab maker and door maker give you lots of flexibility without a lot of bloat. There are also issues when it comes to curves and properly re sizing dynamic components.

                      Although my plugins are not DC's, they do work with interact, open, close etc.
                      Also batch editing is very powerful and quick. Change rules for how a window is constructed and change all the windows in the entire complex - if you wish.

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                        pilou
                        last edited by 17 Apr 2016, 23:40

                        Yes! Seems generally today in the windows' world is missing some round and no quandragular forms! πŸ˜‰

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                          Garry K
                          last edited by 18 Apr 2016, 00:06

                          Yes - to be a fully featured plugin you need to have all of these types of windows and more. Also designers aren't just building square boxes. They need a lot of options.

                          A good window and door schedule that they can add to is also important.

                          window styles.png

                          I see the interface to be similar in nature to my cab maker interface. You can pack a lot of parameters, group, disable enable, work with language translation files and most importantly have graphics showing the user what the parameter does. That along with a detailed manual.

                          Here is an example of the user interface for cab maker in English with Inches in fractions.

                          __Cabinets Tab.png

                          And here is the same user form but this one is in French and uses millimeters.

                          __Cabinets Tab French.png

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                            juju
                            last edited by 18 Apr 2016, 06:48

                            A good and simple solution for generating windows is greatly lacking, I'll keep a keen eye on this thread... hits subscribe topic

                            @pilou said:

                            Seems all that is yet made! πŸ˜‰ (for classical forms)
                            Must be soon released!

                            This one seem interesting, but it has yet to be released.

                            @garry k said:

                            Yes - to be a fully featured plugin you need to have all of these types of windows and more. Also designers aren't just building square boxes. They need a lot of options.

                            A good window and door schedule that they can add to is also important.

                            [attachment=2:11c7xfsa]<!-- ia2 -->window styles.png<!-- ia2 -->[/attachment:11c7xfsa]

                            I see the interface to be similar in nature to my cab maker interface. You can pack a lot of parameters, group, disable enable, work with language translation files and most importantly have graphics showing the user what the parameter does. That along with a detailed manual.

                            Here is an example of the user interface for cab maker in English with Inches in fractions.

                            [attachment=1:11c7xfsa]<!-- ia1 -->__Cabinets Tab.png<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:11c7xfsa]

                            And here is the same user form but this one is in French and uses millimeters.

                            [attachment=0:11c7xfsa]<!-- ia0 -->__Cabinets Tab French.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:11c7xfsa]

                            It looks like you're putting it together Garry!

                            Window+
                            Who has any experience with this one?

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                              pilou
                              last edited by 18 Apr 2016, 08:51

                              Of course you have Click-Kitchen ! πŸ˜‰

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                                juju
                                last edited by 18 Apr 2016, 09:42

                                @pilou said:

                                Of course you have Click-Kitchen ! πŸ˜‰

                                yes, but does it do windows?

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                                  pbacot
                                  last edited by 18 Apr 2016, 15:44

                                  I look at GKware Door Maker and it appears to only be for cabinet doors.

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                                    Garry K
                                    last edited by 18 Apr 2016, 16:12

                                    Door Maker Gold adds features for passage doors, bifolds and entry doors
                                    And it will do cabinet doors as well.

                                    For thick passage doors the panel raising is on both sides and the handle is on both sides.

                                    door maker gold.png

                                    Here are some examples

                                    double bifold.PNG

                                    wide door.PNG

                                    Entry.PNG

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                                      Garry K
                                      last edited by 18 Apr 2016, 16:25

                                      For extra wide doors you can set a pivot point and use pivot hinges.
                                      Here's a double door with astragal and a 6" pivot point

                                      All doors open and close - you set the angle.
                                      Bifolds have bifold action.

                                      pivot point door.png

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                                        pbacot
                                        last edited by 18 Apr 2016, 16:57

                                        Door Maker : OK great. I didn't get that impression from looking at it. Thanks... I see you have hardware and door swings too.

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                                          juju
                                          last edited by 5 May 2016, 08:01

                                          How is the window maker plugin coming along Garry?


                                          EDIT


                                          I only saw your comment after posting this.

                                          "I haven't got very far with the window plugin. I have been concentrating on a wall plugin - then I'll go back to the window plugin."

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