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    • medeekM Offline
      medeek
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      @glro said:

      My experience is that translating a software is not only about words. Wooden houses are built in each country using technics that are not exactly the same. So translating words from one language to another is not sufficient.
      Maybe the first step would be to check if technics are similar or not in the country you plan and if yes, then look for a a bi lingual technician

      I agree, my translation word for word is merely a start. Ultimately, I will need a native speaker in each language that is familiar with the lingo of the construction industry in their native tongue. To properly translate the plugin will involve others and I am currently seeking out those individuals.

      In fact, in that vein, I am offering a free license to any user who would be willing to help with the translation into their native tongue. I am still compiling a list of words and phrases but it should only number about 100 to 150 at best.

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • pilouP Offline
        pilou
        last edited by

        I can make the French part for the fun like an objective tour de force! 😉
        But don't ask that for the BlackFriday! 😄
        Several specialized dictionaries are required! 🤓

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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        • medeekM Offline
          medeek
          last edited by

          For the gutter tab my french translations are:

          
          trans = {
          		'Global Settings';'Paramètres Globaux',
          		'Gutters;';'Gouttières;',
          		'Gutter Style;';'Style de Gouttière;',
          		'Gutter Material;';'Gutter Materiale;',
          		'Gutter Extension;';'Matériau de Gouttière;',
          		'Vertical Offset;';'Décalage Vertical;',
          		'Downspouts;';'Descente de Gouttière;',
          		'Downspout Length;';'Longueur Descente;',
          		'Downspout Type;';'Type de Descente;',
          		'Downspout Depth;';'Profondeur de Descente;',
          		'Downspout Width;';'Largeur de Descente;',
          		'Downspout Dia.;';'Diamètre de Descente;',
          		'Gutter Dimensions;';'Dimensions de la Gouttière;',
          		'General';'Général',
          		'Layers';'Strate',
          		'Materials';'Matériaux',
          		'Sheathing';'Revêtement',
          		'Gutters';'Gouttières',
          		'License';'Licence'
          		};
          
          		reg_notice = '* Remarque; Les paramètres des gouttières sont enregistrés dans le registre Windows ou dans une sous-section d\'un fichier .plist sur un Mac.';
          

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            Little corrections 😉

            'Gutter Material:':'Gutter Materiale:',
            'Gutter Extension:':'Matériau de Gouttière:',
            must be
            'Gutter Material:':'Matériau de Gouttière:',
            'Gutter Extension:': 'Extension de Gouttière:',

              'Downspout Length:':'Longueur Descente:',
            

            must be
            'Downspout Length:':'Longueur de Descente:', (if you have free space on the line)

              'Layers':'Strate',
              must be
            

            'Layers':'Couches', (context of building), 'Calques' context of drawing, computers etc...)

            And depending
            if gutter(s) are visible = gouttière(s)
            gutter(s) not visible = chéneau(x)

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • medeekM Offline
              medeek
              last edited by

              @pilou said:

              Little corrections 😉

              'Gutter Material:':'Gutter Materiale:',
              'Gutter Extension:':'Matériau de Gouttière:',
              must be
              'Gutter Material:':'Matériau de Gouttière:',
              'Gutter Extension:': 'Extension de Gouttière:',

                'Downspout Length:':'Longueur Descente:',
              

              must be
              'Downspout Length:':'Longueur de Descente:', (if you have free space on the line)

                'Layers':'Strate',
                must be
              

              'Layers':'Couches', (context of building), 'Calques' context of drawing, computers etc...)

              And depending
              if gutter(s) are visible = gouttière(s)
              gutter(s) not visible = chéneau(x)

              Thank-you I will make the corrections. A couple of obvious errors on my part, I guess I wasn't paying attention.

              Now that the template is setup, adding a language is really simple, its the actual translation that I will probably struggle with since as you've noted choosing the correct word based on the context is difficult unless you are proficient with the language.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • medeekM Offline
                medeek
                last edited by

                Speaking of complex roofs:

                http://image-store.slidesharecdn.com/406a5d47-dbb6-4fe5-8696-600184a9a33c-original.jpeg

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • medeekM Offline
                  medeek
                  last edited by

                  Back to complex roofs. I've been giving some thought to complex truss roofs and how to handle L-shaped roofs and their derivatives. Basically there is three ways to frame them out, which one is the most standard or preferred?

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                  Option C with a drop in purlin frame:

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                  • medeekM Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by

                    Valley sets can get a little interesting when you start dealing with intersecting hip roofs. If the width of the projection were to increase the valley set would become a combination of standard valley trusses and flat top or hip valley trusses.

                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su316_800.jpg

                    View model here:

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                    With the projection width extended:

                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su317_800.jpg

                    View model here:

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                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • medeekM Offline
                      medeek
                      last edited by

                      Version 2.0.9 - 11.25.2017

                      • Structural outlookers (vert. & horz.) enabled under advanced roof options for Parallel Chord truss type.
                      • Metal plate connectors now enabled for all parallel chord trusses.

                      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su318_800.jpg

                      This truss type should now be up-to-date with all of the advanced options available:

                      roof returns, gutters, ceiling drywall, ridge cap etc...

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • medeekM Offline
                        medeek
                        last edited by

                        I was discussing the plugin with a family friend and he suggested I offer a student version of the plugin (ie. fully functional but time limited to one year and purchase requires a student ID).

                        I already offer a trial version (freemium model) that is limited in its functionality.

                        Is there any need for this?

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                        • pbacotP Offline
                          pbacot
                          last edited by

                          Some sort of educational version might be good, or licensing to school or class that has an expiration so it is harder to pirate... It may be some teachers would like to use it to familiarize students with construction methods, besides the modelling aspect.

                          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                          • jujuJ Offline
                            juju
                            last edited by

                            Is there some way you can incorporate a method for exporting/importing settings (user defined layers for example) in your various extensions? I'm migrating to a new machine and this seems like a useful feature, even though it may be one that will probably not be used a lot.

                            Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                            • medeekM Offline
                              medeek
                              last edited by

                              Version 2.1.0 - 11.28.2017

                              • Added Northeast hip set trusses.
                              • Enabled advanced options for northeast hip sets.
                              • Added energy/raised heels for northeast hip set (3 variants: wedge, slider and vertical w/ strut).
                              • Added the option for open vs. closed end jacks.
                              • Added the option for a drop in purlin frame.
                              • Enabled a graphical user interface for Truss Set selection.

                              http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su319_800.jpg

                              http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su320_800.jpg

                              I only plan on adding the midwest and california variants if requested.

                              I don't want to toot my own horn but these truss sets are quite complex, I'm still amazed that I've been able to finally write the code to generate all of this geometry. At first it is a bit overwhelming but when you break it down into its components and slowly grind each one out sooner or later it emerges.

                              I still have not added plates to the truss hip sets due to the complexity and the fact that it is low on the priority list for now. Complex roof are currently my biggest hurdle and I am still battling with how to best approach these from a systematic standpoint and then dive into the details once the overall layout is configured.

                              Until I have complex roofs figured out the plugin is only about halfway there, but at least I've got my foot in the door and I'm making progress.

                              When you consider that you can create one of these hip truss sets literally in seconds with all of the sheathing, cladding, fascia, gutters etc... and it is all geometrically correct, it is pretty cool. Manually it would take me well over an hour to try and generate this level of detail without the plugin, there is something to be said for automation.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                              • medeekM Offline
                                medeek
                                last edited by

                                @juju said:

                                Is there some way you can incorporate a method for exporting/importing settings (user defined layers for example) in your various extensions? I'm migrating to a new machine and this seems like a useful feature, even though it may be one that will probably not be used a lot.

                                I don't know how to do it on a Mac but if your running Windows you can probably pull the settings directly from the registry and then insert them back in on the new machine.

                                I will give this some thought.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                • medeekM Offline
                                  medeek
                                  last edited by

                                  The reason I am taking so long with complex rafter and truss roofs is the possible permutations is making things very challenging.

                                  For example take the truss roof below:

                                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su321_800.jpg

                                  I'm assuming there are no interior bearing walls and we want to clearspan the entire building outline. I can get the basic roof and truss layout by creating to hip truss sets as primitives but that is where it then becomes very interesting.

                                  As you can see there are two mid-building girder trusses that then catch the mono pitch sub-girders which are each supporting two common trusses. Next to the sub-girders is a small valley set (half valley) that fills in the roof behind the sub-girders.

                                  The largest span is 36', which is reasonable. This appears to be the simplest way to truss this roof out but is probably not the only solution. A good truss technician could tell me how close I am to the optimal solution.

                                  Granted the complex rafter roof is not IMHO as hard a problem but it also has similar difficulties and issues.

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                                  design.medeek.com

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                                  • medeekM Offline
                                    medeek
                                    last edited by

                                    C'est merveilleux, merci beaucoup.

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                    • pilouP Offline
                                      pilou
                                      last edited by

                                      I will make corrections on the post above! 😉

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                      • medeekM Offline
                                        medeek
                                        last edited by

                                        French translation of the Roof Truss Menu:

                                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su322_800.jpg

                                        I will roll a sub revision so everyone can try it out.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • pilouP Offline
                                          pilou
                                          last edited by

                                          It's a beginning! 😄

                                          Have you a system of translation ?
                                          Or I must edit some files ?

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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                                          • medeekM Offline
                                            medeek
                                            last edited by

                                            I am still compiling the list of words and phrases, there are a lot of menus, too many.

                                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                                            design.medeek.com

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