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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      Here's v2.0 http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher
      It now adds a Context-Menu item if the current Selection contains
      Geometry [Edges and Faces] not assigned to "Layer0", it is called -
      "Selected-Geometry-To-Layer0" - it reassigns that Geometry's Layer[s] to be
      "Layer0". The Layers of other Entities in the Selection - e.g. Groups -
      are ignored, only Geometry in the Selection is changed.
      However, if the Selection contains Groups or Components, AND they in turn
      contain Geometry that is not assigned to "Layer0", then you are then prompted
      Yes|No to fix that... These changes mine down into any nested containers too...
      These Layer changes are one-step undo-able.

      TIG

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      • JClementsJ Offline
        JClements
        last edited by

        "But at least this fixes the exploding Group/Component issue where its Geometry inherits the container's Layer !"

        That is the 5-star attribute of this plugin. Thank you TIG!

        John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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        • cmeedC Offline
          cmeed
          last edited by

          Hi Tig, - Great Plugin again. there is a clash with ACT (advanced camera tech) that you and people should be aware of. the ACT automatically creates layers and then geometry on them. This leads to your pop up box repeating itself. you have to switch SU off using windows Task Manager.
          i disabled tig-layerwatcher in plugins manager - restarted and ACT works fine.
          c

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            @cmeed said:

            Hi Tig, - Great Plugin again. there is a clash with ACT (advanced camera tech) that you and people should be aware of. the ACT automatically creates layers and then geometry on them. This leads to your pop up box repeating itself. you have to switch SU off using windows Task Manager.
            i disabled tig-layerwatcher in plugins manager - restarted and ACT works fine.
            c
            Thank you for the report.
            Of course ACT should never need to change the active layer from Layer0, or to put geometry on a layer that is not Layer0 - so I am perplexed...
            Investigating...
            EDIT:

            Oddly when the ACT tool adds a layer [it adds two] it makes it current and then immediately reverts to the existing layer anyway, so it's pretty dumb !
            It is possible to add a layer and use it, without ever making it current.
            ACT adds camera objects etc onto those newly made layers...
            I am thinking of reporting its silliness to the authors...
            I can easily trap for this idiocy, but it would not be expected if ACT acted sensibly.

            TIG

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              Here's v3.0 http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher It now allows tools [like ACT] to set a layer active that is NOT Layer0 - without the warning message.
              It also allows non-native tools to add geometry onto layers other than Layer0.
              Native tools are still covered...

              TIG

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              • cmeedC Offline
                cmeed
                last edited by

                As always your work and speed is sublime !

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                • cmeedC Offline
                  cmeed
                  last edited by

                  As always your work and speed is sublime !
                  If only ACT was updated - it's been the same pain in the a*se for so long now. We don't need those extra layers! I've never needed those camera volumes it produces and you can't turn them off. They keep coming back and It's slow slow slow. Grrrr.
                  Grumble grumble.

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                  • N Offline
                    numerobis
                    last edited by

                    Great little plugin for fixing this idiotic exploding behavior! Thanks!

                    And yes... ACT should be fixed too - this large geometry is a joke that makes it unusable!

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                    • D Offline
                      DOD3R
                      last edited by

                      Hello All,
                      Allow me to just share my idea on how i deal with this in my workflow.
                      I probably as everybody have the habit to save usually at least once in ten minutes, or usually when finishing some steps like component,floor.
                      To address the problem of geometry on different layer than 0 I made similar habit of running clean up plugin from ThomThom. I did set up two hotkeys for two kind of settings. First is applicable for solid like geometries with smoothing and deleting edges and the other is practically just geometry on layer 0.

                      have a great day everybody.

                      T.

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Here's v4.0
                        http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher
                        Now trapped for obscure errors from some other plugins' operations affecting its observers etc.
                        It has also been made into an 'Extension'.

                        TIG

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          Here's v5.0
                          http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher
                          It has minor tweaks and is also 'future-proofed'.

                          TIG

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Here's v6.0.
                            http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher
                            It has better reporting of geometry assignment to Layer0 on completion.
                            It also has a few background security tweaks too.

                            TIG

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              Here's v7.0 http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher Its code loading regime has been adjusted in an attempt to avoid an occasional glitch with v2016.

                              TIG

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                              • facerF Offline
                                facer
                                last edited by

                                TIG,
                                Thank you for the "clever plugin".

                                I can not find a reference to the plugin other than in
                                SketchUcation Plugins Manager and in the "Plugins" folder.

                                How would I "easily" check on which version I am running in the future?

                                All the best for the New Year!


                                Screen Shot 12-29-15 at 07.59 PM.JPG

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                                • Dave RD Offline
                                  Dave R
                                  last edited by

                                  @facer said:

                                  TIG,
                                  Thank you for the "clever plugin".

                                  I can not find a reference to the plugin other than in
                                  SketchUcation Plugins Manager and in the "Plugins" folder.

                                  How would I "easily" check on which version I am running in the future?

                                  All the best for the New Year!

                                  Window>Preferences

                                  Screenshot - 12_29_2015 , 4_52_10 AM.png

                                  Etaoin Shrdlu

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                                  (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

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                                  M30

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                                  • facerF Offline
                                    facer
                                    last edited by

                                    Thank you Dave R,
                                    I did not see the plugin's summary at the bottom last time I looked:
                                    Version 7.0
                                    Creator: TIG
                                    Copyright: TIG (c) 2015

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      Here's v8.0 http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher It fixes a reported glitch - where the Layer Observer [spotting the resetting of the current-layer away from Layer0] was not getting transferred across when a new SKP was opened. Now fixed. 😄

                                      TIG

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Here's v9.0 http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher
                                        Read the revised Usage notes on its PluginStore page...

                                        BugSplats on MACs when immediately undoing Make Group / Component now avoided.

                                        Note that it no longer reassigns the layers of natively Exploded Containers' Geometry [because an unsolvable undo-stack overflow problem when > ~200 pieces of geometry are moved into their new context, because then undo of the explode becomes impossible],

                                        BUT there is a new context-menu item "Explode-To-Layer0" - it is only available if the selected Containers are not on Layer0 - it then explodes the Containers and reassigns Layer0 to the resultant Geometry: this explode is then once again properly one-step undo-able, irrespective of the amount of geometry getting moved and reassigned to Layer0.

                                        Otherwise its processes and tools are generally as in v8.0...

                                        TIG

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                                        • D Offline
                                          dan19936
                                          last edited by

                                          TIG - thank you for this plugin! I've assigned the Explode-To-Layer0 command to my keyboard shortcut, the only problem is that since this is a context sensitive command, groups on layer0 won't explode with my shortcut. The solution is to also use [Plugin] Layer Zero Fixup Tools by slbaumgartner and assign that to your shortcut.

                                          http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=375498#p375498

                                          Dan

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            You don't need to use "Explode to Layer0" if the container is assigned "Layer0" - therefore it doesn't appear in the context-menu in that case, you can just explode it and its contents will go onto Layer0 anyway...
                                            The purpose of this alternative exploder is that if the container is on Layer1 and you do a native Explode the geometry that was inside it on Layer0 arrives on Layer1, this alternative way always explodes onto Layer0.

                                            However I can see times when you might want to use the "Explode to Layer0" on a number of containers, some of which are already assigned Layer0 and they will they get skipped.
                                            I'll adjust the code and update...

                                            TIG

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