Perfection
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Pete, it would be a very strong joint indeed. There are temples in Japan that are built with similar joinery and are hundreds of years old. They withstand the shocks of earthquakes and the vagaries of weather. But can you imagine building a structure with joinery like that these days in the west?
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This is just a "trait de Jupiter", but very well made.
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Reminds me of one of these:
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What about the wood's wedge?
It stay in place?
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@solo said:
but still that looks amazing and so strong.
glue is way stronger now than it used to be and glue-lam beams are a lot faster to make in bulk.. just hide the nastiness with some drywall and paint
(though really, laminated wooden beams can be made to look real sweet when exposed too.. they're also a lot more stable than joining two solid beams together.. especially when considering we don't have nearly the access to old growth woods like they used to back in the day.. most of our framing timber is pretty much crap these days
)..it's sort of a bummer though from the craftsman point-of-view.. highly skilled joint makers have long gone under appreciated imo and even more so in the past few decades.. a lost art for the masses.
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Here's a few column joints I have in my library... I love architecture of the Orient, Namely buhdist architecture. I don't think it can be surpassed in attention to detail or pure style.
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@cotty said:
Nice find, couldn't resist... (model attached)
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To work properly this need a minimum angle.
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The one in the video isn't cut on an angle but it appears to work fine.
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Yes, please explain why it needs a minimum angle...
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@slbaumgartner said:
Yes, please explain why it needs a minimum angle…
If there is no angle the joint lose strength
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Well, then, you're saying the joint in the video isn't such a great joint after all?
I don't agree with you at all on that. I can think of plenty of joints that don't have angled cuts that are more than strong enough.
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I think we would need to know the intended use to know if it was sufficient.
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i think the one in the video is actually angled in a similar way as gilles is showing.. when trying to look at the one they're working on, it's hard to tell if they're angled or if it's just camera perspective but this frame shows the other beam in the background in which the angle is more clearly noticeable.
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Boy, without knowing the actual locations of everything it is tough to say whether that is sloped or just the beam is angled away from the camera...maybe if Jeff wants to analyze the video frame by frame
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@slbaumgartner said:
Boy, without knowing the actual locations of everything it is tough to say whether that is sloped or just the beam is angled away from the camera...maybe if Jeff wants to analyze the video frame by frame
hmm.. i didn't really analyze anything.. i just happened to see it.. you're free to look at the frozen frame above or ignore it.. i don't care.
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@krisidious said:
I think we would need to know the intended use to know if it was sufficient.
http://youtu.be/m4P9UqIXlgU
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@jeff hammond said:
i think the one in the video is actually angled in a similar way as gilles is showing.. when trying to look at the one they're working on, it's hard to tell if they're angled or if it's just camera perspective but this frame shows the other beam in the background in which the angle is more clearly noticeable.
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Sloped for sure !
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@dave r said:
Well, then, you're saying the joint in the video isn't such a great joint after all?
I don't agree with you at all on that. I can think of plenty of joints that don't have angled cuts that are more than strong enough.
Dave you are a woodworker; try to do the two versions, do a load test and report.
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