In memoriam
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Last news; it seems that Charlie's killers have been shot down by GIGN forces (french SWAT) during a hostage-taking.
No trial, no truth. Tabula rasa.
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They just killed the gunman that killed the French policewoman too. The two cases are related
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And alas again more 4 innocent civilians personnes killed
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Sometimes the people from the land of Shakespeare say it best
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@krisidious said:
As far as false flag... I'm getting pretty tired of that being the default position of people who seem to think the government controls everything. Everything bad that happens is a government
false flag op to control us.
I'm not sure if it was even a false flag or a total hoax... If you analyze the video with the police officer there are some very suspicious details.
Youtube VideoThere is NO blood at all - not after the first shot(s) where he is holding his hand on the "wound" - so there should be blood at least on his hand and his clothes - and not after the "headshot".
Actually i can't see that his head got hit. For me it looks like the gun is pointing behind him and you see some dust or smoke on the ground on the right side.
If the bullet hit the head there must be an exit wound since it looks like something hit the ground (dust). But if it is the case that the bullet of an AK-47 exited the head i think you would see this clearly on the head and all around him on the right side...
Here is a video of an AK-47 bullet hitting a watermelon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLB36UxWD0M
The head does not move as it got "hit" by the bullet and there is no visible recoil.
And... i'm really no expert, but shouldn't someone that gets a headshot (through-and-through wound) be dead immediately with his arms and head falling to the ground? You can see his left hand moving UP and left to his body AFTER the shot.And then one of the terrorists lost his ID card in the car... really? Come on! We had a similar story with the ID of one of the hijackers on 9/11, do you remember? His ID card was found right at the same day (or the next?) lying on the rubble pile of the towers... of course!
@krisidious said:
When in reality this has never been proven at all
Some proven false flags or hoaxes of the last decades:
Gulf of Tonkin incident -> to start war in Vietnam
Fake Incubator allegations in Kuwait -> Gulf War I
No "Weapons of Massdestruction" (TM) in Iraq -> Gulf War IIAnd the official "conspiricy theory" for 9/11 is clearly not true. There are so many unanswered or questionable points in the official report and other anomalies that haven't even been mentioned.
What about WTC 7? What about WTC 6? How can steel turn to dust? What about the toasted and deformed cars far away from the tower? And the questions could go on and on and on...How about Accademy "helping out" in Ukraine?
Why did Dick Cheney met Al Bagdadi in Syria?
Did you hear everything about these things in the mainstream media? If not, how could you be sure that they tell you the truth about what happened in Paris? I have only seen this police officer and two or three persons on a stretcher. None of us can say what really happened at the office.
I think Paris is in line with Sandy Hook, the Boston marathon, Ottawa, Sydney, New York. All events to cause fear and hate, to help install the police state and mass surveillance and to legitimate
the next wars against islamic countries (for oil, gas, mineral resources and military bases).And btw. why does Noah Pozner, a victim of the Sandy Hook school shooting had to die for a second time in Pakistan last december...?!?
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I moved from the city into the country. I have a 70 acre piece of upper woodland forest in Ontario. I moved here to get away from a world out of control. I am off the grid and we (my family) are set up here to defend ourselves against very distinct threats. People selling religion and people selling medicine.
These things are aggressively threatening my freedom.
The collateral advantage of this adjustment is being able to turn off the media.
We are so happy to have found some peace and some truth, finally!
The world we were living in has neither. -
Jesus...
I hate all these conspiracy theories...!!!
You're diverting this thread to something very ugly...
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@unknownuser said:
ducks and heads for cover
Hey, have heart, we are still a minority but hopefully these types of events will pound people into understanding that religion is "extremely" dangerous. These people are a peak into the advanced evolution of a religious mind. This is where all the doctrines will lead.
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@unknownuser said:
You're diverting this thread to something very ugly...
Freedom of speech does offend doesn't it....
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@frederik said:
Jesus...
I hate all these conspiracy theories...!!!
You're diverting this thread to something very ugly...likewise.. i get sort of bummed when any time people question the motives of a government, they so easily get thrown in the conspiracy theory nut job category.
it shouldn't only be our right to question the governments, it's our duty and it's the only way to keep a democracy healthy and/or in check.. but when the people who are actually questioning the government are so easily shamed by the majority (who, coincidentally don't question their govt), it leads to a very sick society in that the masses are inadvertently aiding corruption.
but hey.. here's a conspiracy theory
the term itself 'conspiracy theory' has been tainted by the conspirators or made into a buzzword for the masses to consume..9/11 events and the report has many many questionable holes in it.. should i question them?? nah.. it's just a conspiracy theory..
what time does the Simpsons marathon start again? -
There are too many facts to call all this a conspiracy theory...For example, there was no weapon of mass destruction which was a reason to attack Iraq in the first place! That means it was just a terrorist act of killing innocent people, not 12, but 133.000 of them! ("There are more than 133,000 individually recorded civilian deaths since the 2003 invasion of Iraq due to direct war related violence and tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians have been wounded."). Is bombing and killing in Serbia, or Iraq or Lybia or ... a conspiracy theory? No, it has really happened. I know about Serbia, I've seen it myself. Do you think it was right thing to do? Do you think that some people are less valuable than the others? Do you know what is the word for that kind of thinking?
Do not judge before you rethink it yourself, unbiased. Will you believe in every fairy tale TV serves to you (some of them are really like B movies) just to avoid being called stupid conspiracy theorist?
"It is a little-known though well-documented fact that the origin of the campaign to ridicule research into conspiracies was initiated by the CIA in 1967 to undermine the credibility of those who questioned the official claims of the Warren Commission regarding the so-called facts of the Kennedy assassination.
Given the challenge we and others feel when speaking out about conspiracies, I think Lance deHaven-Smith is right when, in his new book Conspiracy Theory, he suggests “the CIA’s [covert and illegal] campaign to popularize the term ‘conspiracy theory’ and make conspiracy belief a target of ridicule and hostility must be credited…with being one of the most successful propaganda initiatives of all time…”"
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Police Commissioner Involved in Charlie Hebdo Investigation “Commits Suicide”. Total News Blackout
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There has been a total news blackout.
The French media decided or was instructed not to cover the incident. Not news worthy? So much for “Je suis Charlie” and ”Freedom of Expression” in journalism.
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@srx said:
Police Commissioner Involved in Charlie Hebdo Investigation “Commits Suicide”. Total News Blackout
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There has been a total news blackout.
The French media decided or was instructed not to cover the incident. Not news worthy? So much for “Je suis Charlie” and ”Freedom of Expression” in journalism.
Likewise, the Western media including all major news services (AP, AFP, Reuters, Deutsche Welle, etc) have not covered the issue.I think you could open a new thread, you could call it "the wailing wall".
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Or "the wall of free speech". Gilles, what do you think about this suicide? Doesn't it deserves front pages? Is it OK to hide it from the public?
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numerobis's post made me sick
I hope I could speak better english to share my aversion, but I'm too weak ...
I don't understand how a man can watch an execution video and then see a watermelon exploded by an AK47 to compare the two reactions ... and then how can he decently say "i'm really no expert, but ..." ???
sick, sick, sick ...
Thank you to those who have managed to remain calm and respectful.
Please, please, please, if you're "really no expert", please, just shut your *** ...
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The 'message' that I get is that extremism of all kinds must be rooted out and confronted with the real world. What is the real world? Well basically the world has a finite amount of the things we need and unless we want to fight each other all the time we have to learn that most fundamental lesson of childhood, sharing.
I even spotted a Buddhist monk saying that the slaughter of local Muslims was justified as SOME Muslims had killed SOME Buddhists. As a 'Trekkie' I really do not care what other people do in peace, it is the bovine around some power and influence crazed people getting others to kill for their INTERPRETATION of a faith or belief system.
Perhaps I am the dinosaur.
I just found a post in this very section of the forum and if there is anything to do for a faith this is it. This linked clip shows what any faith should bring us, joy.
http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=179%26amp;t=60412
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It's really sad that this thread had to be brought back to life again...
What a tragedy Paris has been facing once again...
My thoughts and prayers goes to the families and friends who lost their beloved in yesterdays attacks...
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To our french friends here on at the forum: you should know that our thoughts are with you.
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