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    • KrisidiousK Offline
      Krisidious
      last edited by

      I'd wait and stick with sketchup... something will come along.

      By: Kristoff Rand
      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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      • hellnbakH Offline
        hellnbak
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        Rich, twenty years ago I might have taken your advice. But until I perfect my time machine there's just no way I am ever going to attempt to learn another program. Haven't even figured out this one yet, but I usually manage to get the job done, at least to my satisfaction. Sort of.
        Sadly, I know my limitations, and trying to reach beyond them would only frustrate me even more.
        I appreciate the advice tho, I really do.

        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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        • Rich O BrienR Online
          Rich O Brien Moderator
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          This isn't about SU not being able to do it.

          It's more about educating a user that SU isn't a Swiss Army knife.

          Certain modelling practices require different tools.

          If I was to tackle this in SU I'd be using transparent textures to lower memory usage and scene management.

          Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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          • BoxB Offline
            Box
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            Ok, but would be a shame if you don't eventually tackle it with your incredible attention to detail.

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            • hellnbakH Offline
              hellnbak
              last edited by

              C'mon Rich, of course SU is a Swiss Army knife. The tricky part is figuring out how to use all the blades and tools ๐Ÿ˜‰

              Still messing around with the wheel. Gotta tighten up the mesh yet


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              "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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              • Rich O BrienR Online
                Rich O Brien Moderator
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                I think it's the fact you use SketchUp as your presentation tool and the added level of detail in projects that cause your bottlenecks.

                It's not fault of SU or you but more a junction where you change trains.

                It can do what you ask but at a price.

                Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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                • hellnbakH Offline
                  hellnbak
                  last edited by

                  Ah, but then there's the sense of accomplishment when I do finally manage to figure something out. Of course two weeks later I can't remember how I did it, but whaddaya gonna do?

                  "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                  • Rich O BrienR Online
                    Rich O Brien Moderator
                    last edited by

                    One thing is guaranteed. Your end result is gonna be stunning.

                    Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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                    • BoxB Offline
                      Box
                      last edited by

                      Sometimes Rich, using the right tool for the job doesn't produce the desired result.
                      Creating art isn't about doing things the easy way it's about self expression.
                      Hellnbak's models aren't something mechanically produced, they are highly detailed artworks much like the pencil sketches people do that look like photos. You could suggest they just use a camera. Getting the realism he does using sketchup it what makes them particularly outstanding and inspirational to other modellers.

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                      • andybotA Offline
                        andybot
                        last edited by

                        keep on rockin' that moon buggy hellnbak! Like Box says, your modeling is inspirational. ๐Ÿ˜„

                        http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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                        • Rich O BrienR Online
                          Rich O Brien Moderator
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                          @box

                          Absolutely.

                          Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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                          • hellnbakH Offline
                            hellnbak
                            last edited by

                            Really appreciate all the kind words.

                            Wow, I do art?? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                            "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                            • pbacotP Offline
                              pbacot
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                              Yep. Amazing!

                              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                              • hellnbakH Offline
                                hellnbak
                                last edited by

                                Some minor tweaks, replaced rim with more accurate one, started on front fender
                                2014-10-16_162002.png
                                Haven't figured out why yet, but the front section of the fender was made to snap into place in various positions. Finding out all sorts of interesting things as I research this thing. For example - the rovers were built for 1/6 gravity, and the astronauts would have broken it if they had sat it on Earth. They had to train on stronger mockups of the rovers.

                                "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                • pbacotP Offline
                                  pbacot
                                  last edited by

                                  OK. You're underway. How about a WIP thread called 'Moon Buggy Journey' or something--no more 'problems'.

                                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                  • hellnbakH Offline
                                    hellnbak
                                    last edited by

                                    Yeah, actually I considered that. But with my methods - bouncing back and forth between models, not to mention my slowwwwwwwww modeling - I don't think it would work very well. The moon buggy itself is going to be put on a back burner while I finish some of my other projects. Don't know when I will get back to it.

                                    "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                    • hellnbakH Offline
                                      hellnbak
                                      last edited by

                                      Sometimes when I'm really interested in a model subject I order a reference book or two if I can find good ones. In the case of the Rover I lucked out, found two good ones on Amazon, got one today -
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                                      and it is jam-packed with info, technical drawings, much more than I expected.

                                      The next one should be here by tomorrow -
                                      2014-10-17_172354.png
                                      hope it's as good as the first one.

                                      I think I just might start a "Building the Rover" thread, it might be fun (if people are willing to put up with some long waits between posts)

                                      "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                      • D Offline
                                        driven
                                        last edited by

                                        I can't even get a Haynes manual for my 2002 van, and they made 400 of my van...

                                        that's fantastic...

                                        john

                                        learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                        • hellnbakH Offline
                                          hellnbak
                                          last edited by

                                          But did you ever drive your van on the moon? ๐Ÿ˜†

                                          "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                          • pilouP Offline
                                            pilou
                                            last edited by

                                            Take a look at this tutorial about "Parisian fence", maybe some tricks can be reused in the moon! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                            Else you can make some crazzy wheels with only one component with one face! ๐Ÿค“
                                            So can't be more light! โ˜€
                                            Only copy(s)rotation(s) of this component! ๐Ÿค“
                                            It's just a little headache for draw this first face ! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                            And put the axes of rotation!
                                            But like this you have not to dive in Blender! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                            oneface.jpg

                                            See these videos for some ideas ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                            Frenchy Pilou
                                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                            My Little site :)

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