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    SU 2014 Validtiy Check issues

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    • T Offline
      tomot
      last edited by

      Yes: Sketchup.send_action( 21124 ) brings up the attached pics above.


      this is the first pic SU 2014 shows.

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        tomot
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        I gather by the non-response, that this is another SU 2014 dialog annoyance that keeps popping up after each save of a project, ....and that we just have to live with! πŸ‘Ž

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        • Dan RathbunD Offline
          Dan Rathbun
          last edited by

          You can control the fixin' via the General panel of the Preferences dialog.

          Turn off "auto check" or turn on "auto fix" and the popup should go away.

          I'm not here much anymore.

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          • AdamBA Offline
            AdamB
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            tomot, its telling you what the problem is.
            Can you not locate the invalid characters you have in the layer name and rename it?

            Adam

            Developer of LightUp Click for website

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              tomot
              last edited by

              @adamb said:

              tomot, its telling you what the problem is.
              Can you not locate the invalid characters you have in the layer name and rename it?

              Adam

              That's precisely what I have been struggling with. Doing a search for CLayer in the ruby code turns up nothing. (175) I thought, refers to a line number, but it is not a line number issue. I'm wondering if these validity check statements are part of some undocumented API reference?

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              • tt_suT Offline
                tt_su
                last edited by

                @tomot said:

                @adamb said:

                tomot, its telling you what the problem is.
                Can you not locate the invalid characters you have in the layer name and rename it?

                Adam

                That's precisely what I have been struggling with. Doing a search for CLayer in the ruby code turns up nothing. (175) I thought, refers to a line number, but it is not a line number issue. I'm wondering if these validity check statements are part of some undocumented API reference?

                CLayer is the internal C++ class name in SketchUp. 175 would be the ID number of the layer. The specifics of these messages are for debugging by us. For API developers they can give clues - in this case it would mean looking at code that deal with layers. For users it's very little use - except report to developers.

                The Validity Check is not a API feature - it's a SketchUp core feature that is performed every time the model is saved.
                Does this happen in any model? Or specific model?
                You say it's after the use of one or more extensions. Have you pinpointed which ones? Which actions?
                The message says the layer name is invalid - so a good place to look would be any code that sets the layer name. All though, the API shouldn't allow invalid names to be entered. There is also a chance this could be as a result of using an old corrupt model - such as importing a component with an invalid layer.

                Do you have a sample model - before the layer name is fixed?

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                • Dan RathbunD Offline
                  Dan Rathbun
                  last edited by

                  I remember that the layer name of 0 was changed from language localized names to "Layer0" for all language editions at some point. (We would think the validity check would fix this, in newer SketchUp versions.)

                  Perhaps unicode characters are causing issues in layer names ?

                  I'm not here much anymore.

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                  • tt_suT Offline
                    tt_su
                    last edited by

                    @dan rathbun said:

                    I remember that the layer name of 0 was changed from language localized names to "Layer0" for all language editions at some point.

                    True, could be a result of that bug.

                    @dan rathbun said:

                    (We would think the validity check would fix this, in newer SketchUp versions.)

                    Also very likely, I haven't checked the source code though.

                    @dan rathbun said:

                    Perhaps unicode characters are causing issues in layer names ?

                    Another possibility that there are some unexpected byte sequences, true.

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                    • Chris FullmerC Offline
                      Chris Fullmer
                      last edited by

                      Here is a little snippet that will recreate the error.

                      m = Sketchup.active_model m.start_operation("painful", true) ls=m.layers 500.times do |i| ls.add("" << i) end m.commit_operation

                      That creates 500 layers with various UTF8 characters. One of them is invalid, I'm not sure which. But if you run that snippet, then run the Fix Model, it will pop up that error.

                      Point is, it is very possible to add characters via Ruby that SketchUp considers invalid and does not reject, but will notice them and fix them in a validity test.

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                      • Chris FullmerC Offline
                        Chris Fullmer
                        last edited by

                        Hmm, looking again though, I don't think I recreated your issue. I managed to create a validity error that could not be fixed, while yours was fixable. So maybe that is not the exact problem 😞

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                        • tt_suT Offline
                          tt_su
                          last edited by

                          Oh great - now we got two bugs... thanks Chris...

                          99bugs.jpg

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                          • Dan RathbunD Offline
                            Dan Rathbun
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                            Look it's "Grumpy Cat" !

                            I'm not here much anymore.

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                            • Dan RathbunD Offline
                              Dan Rathbun
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                              @chris fullmer said:

                              Point is, it is very possible to add characters via Ruby that SketchUp considers invalid and does not reject, but will notice them and fix them in a validity test.

                              Yea...

                              ... the add layer method allows, but should not :

                              • control characters 00h (0dec) thru 19h (31dec)
                              • zero width characters \u2000 thru \u200F
                              • perhaps any of the many punctuation characters
                              • perhaps replacement characters \uFFFC and \uFFFD

                              It ( add layer,) also should not allow 20h or A0h space as the first character (IMHO).
                              Validity check could replace them with an underscore.

                              And what about bracket characters, should they be allowed ?

                              I'm not here much anymore.

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                                tomot
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                                @dan rathbun said:

                                I remember that the layer name of 0 was changed from language localized names to "Layer0" for all language editions at some point. (We would think the validity check would fix this, in newer SketchUp versions.)

                                Perhaps unicode characters are causing issues in layer names ?

                                I'm wondering if the following code I'm using might be the cause?

                                      layers=model.layers
                                      layers.add (@frame)
                                      activelayer=model.active_layer=layers[@frame]
                                      layer=model.active_layer
                                
                                #code that places stuff on layer frame 
                                #goes here
                                #at the end of this routine I reset layer  
                                
                                # Reset layer back to default layer [0]
                                       layers = model.layers
                                       activelayer = model.active_layer=layers[0]
                                       layer = model.active_layer 
                                
                                

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