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    • architexA Offline
      architex
      last edited by

      Thank JEFF... you are the best.

      But can I ask you, for you to draw the same, more 2 examples?

      You made it with 4 spaces between, in which 4 + 4, total 8 spaces segments.

      Can you draw the same with:

      5 + 5 segment spaces? and other one with 6 + 6 segments?

      I think that would help me to decide some dimension when I draw the up level floor, and manipulate de spaces between de structure frame (to draw holes in the dome)

      Can you do that for me... And I think I found some material that help me determine the FOCUS point (FOCI) of the ellipse, and then draw perpendiculars to the arch in sketchup.

      One more time...

      You Rock dude.

      Thanks a lot.
      BIg hug men! πŸ˜„ 😍 😍

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      • architexA Offline
        architex
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        Ups! sorry.. I forget to say...

        Let me correct... The main objective is to draw equal segments, starting at the minor axis (the one parallel to front view) WITH 2.40 meter (that`s the exactly dimension I need).

        And if in the "nose" results with a different dimensions, there is no problem. Because that's the centre, and there are a main entry under the dome (like a FOYER entry, before going to the show room)

        πŸ˜„

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        • architexA Offline
          architex
          last edited by

          Please, save it in SKETCHUP 2013, or SKETCHUP 8....

          The file you give to me is in SKP 2014 version ... It`s impossible to open newer versions on earlier one.

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          • jeff hammondJ Offline
            jeff hammond
            last edited by

            .

            here it is in v8.. i usually remember to do that but... πŸ˜‰

            ellipseDome_v8.skp

            .

            dotdotdot

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            • jeff hammondJ Offline
              jeff hammond
              last edited by

              @unknownuser said:

              Ups! sorry.. I forget to say...

              Let me correct... The main objective is to draw equal segments, starting at the minor axis (the one parallel to front view) WITH 2.40 meter (that`s the exactly dimension I need).

              And if in the "nose" results with a different dimensions, there is no problem. Because that's the centre, and there are a main entry under the dome (like a FOYER entry, before going to the show room)

              πŸ˜„

              like this?
              (note- last segment is 1.75m instead of 2.4m)

              2_4m.skp

              2_4m.jpg

              if this is right, i'll do one with the surface included.. the vertices along the ellipse of the other one i uploaded won't match up with these ones. (it's sometimes tricky dealing with nurbs surfaces which have been converted to meshes.. it's best to have everything joined up in the nurbs app prior to meshing.. that will allow all the vertices to match between the different parts)

              [going to sleep soon.. leave a note if this version is right and i'll post another version in the morning]

              dotdotdot

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
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                You can also try the little brother of Rhino
                "Moment of Inspiration" a little more easy to learn! πŸ˜‰
                (Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V is possible in the 2 ways between Moi and Rhino !!! )

                You can use the demo infinite without save! β˜€
                Some sufficient for have the distances! πŸ˜‰ A sort of super 3D Geometric drwawer tool! 😎
                Here you propagate a point on the arc elllipse as you want then draw your Perpendicular lines by hands (helpers Lines are terrific )
                all that take maybe 10 seconds! πŸ˜„ it's one of your ellipse!

                http://s6.postimg.org/l7hdcv2dt/ellipseperp.jpg

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • architexA Offline
                  architex
                  last edited by

                  that right...yupi, yupi! πŸ˜„

                  You are the boss.

                  Thanks one more time.

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                  • architexA Offline
                    architex
                    last edited by

                    @unknownuser said:

                    You can also try the little brother of Rhino
                    "Moment of Inspiration" a little more easy to learn! πŸ˜‰
                    (Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V is possible in the 2 ways between Moi and Rhino !!! )

                    You can use the demo infinite without save! β˜€
                    Some sufficient for have the distances! πŸ˜‰ A sort of super 3D Geometric drwawer tool! 😎
                    Here you propagate a point on the arc elllipse as you want then draw your Perpendicular lines by hands (helpers Lines are terrific )
                    all that take maybe 10 seconds! πŸ˜„ it's one of your ellipse!

                    http://s6.postimg.org/l7hdcv2dt/ellipseperp.jpg

                    Hello there...

                    Thanks for answer and try to help. I have to say that I never had notice about that software. I will find out more about it... Can you say to me if it is possible to export to SKETCHUP, or AUTOCAD?

                    And about the trial version? Do I have 7 day for testing or no? In trial version still possible to export, save or something like that?

                    best greetings

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                    • architexA Offline
                      architex
                      last edited by

                      like this?
                      (note- last segment is 1.75m instead of 2.4m)

                      [attachment=1:h1ktb1n9]<!-- ia1 -->2_4m.skp<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:h1ktb1n9]

                      [attachment=0:h1ktb1n9]<!-- ia0 -->2_4m.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:h1ktb1n9]

                      if this is right, i'll do one with the surface included.. the vertices along the ellipse of the other one i uploaded won't match up with these ones. (it's sometimes tricky dealing with nurbs surfaces which have been converted to meshes.. it's best to have everything joined up in the nurbs app prior to meshing.. that will allow all the vertices to match between the different parts)

                      [going to sleep soon.. leave a note if this version is right and i'll post another version in the morning][/quote]

                      ....................................................................

                      That`s right bro...yupi, yupi! πŸ˜„

                      You are the great boss here.

                      Manny manny Thanks you, one more time.

                      It doesn't metter if the end close are different then 2,40meter measure. It have to be. Other wise, I have to calculate and redraw all ellipse to find every 2,40meter in equal segments.

                      ..I am gone open your SKP file this time, to see if the version save is ok.

                      Will contact to you soon.

                      If I leave EUA, or were you leave, I will buy you a drink my friend. You are priceless

                      πŸ˜„

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                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                        jeff hammond
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                        @unknownuser said:

                        If I leave EUA, or were you leave, I will buy you a drink my friend. You are priceless

                        ha.. i like messing around with these types of structures so i get some fun out of doing it.. but yeah, if you're ever in nyc, i'll have a jack & ginger πŸ‘

                        here's the version with the 2.4m layout and a domed surface with matching vertices.. good luck with the rest of your project.

                        2_4withsurface_v8.skp

                        dotdotdot

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                        • pilouP Offline
                          pilou
                          last edited by

                          @unknownuser said:

                          And about the trial version? Do I have 7 day for testing or no?

                          A month ! πŸ˜‰ And of course yes you can save load anything! πŸ˜‰

                          @unknownuser said:

                          Can you say to me if it is possible to export to SKETCHUP, or AUTOCAD?

                          Absolutly sure for Sketchup πŸ˜„
                          For AutoCad I have never try because I have not Autocad! πŸ’š
                          exportImport.jpg

                          Some colors on the Jeff's file πŸ˜„ A paragliding, parachute ? πŸ˜„
                          colors.jpg

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                          • architexA Offline
                            architex
                            last edited by

                            HELLO People.

                            I have to say that i have been working on my structure. But everyday pass I find more troubles! shit for it!

                            I am start to think that I miss some points.

                            First I was working with MOI software (lovely and simple). Therefore I star learning RHINO (like in one week)... just about to love that software.. BUT my structure still having troubles.

                            The last perpendicular to x plane (parallel to y plane) doesn't touch on the others frames. And because of that it is getting impossible to draw the oval shape.

                            I make an array by the elliptical path.. everything went nice beside that last perpendicular frame. The problem are in that last arch curve. And I can not find the solution for it.


                            ALL FINAL TRELLIS


                            Hiding edges - show elliptical silhouette for shape construction


                            03.jpg


                            04.jpg

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                            • architexA Offline
                              architex
                              last edited by

                              the only solution I was able to find, it was using/drawing 2 ellipses.

                              1ΒΊ draw in X plan
                              2ΒΊ draw in high in Y plan
                              3ΒΊ revolve or loft.

                              but in this solution I get an ugly regular elliptical shape.

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