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  • B Offline
    bikerchris
    last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 09:54

    Hi Planet Earth,

    I hope you can help.

    I have a fairly basic 3D model (600Kb) with 37 scenes, and with a few active section planes.

    If I create animation in MP4 format, the sections do not animate.

    If I create animation in AVI format, it goes through the process of creating frames, finishes, but there is NO file or error reports. When I reduce the number of scenes to be animated, it correctly creates the AVI file with no problem.

    I also tried using Animation ---> image sets, this did work but again would not animate section planes. I have also found that any AVI files that exceed 2GB in size, can't be imported into Windows Movie Maker.

    My next workaround (which I'm sick of doing by the way), is to split the file to scenes containing no more than around 6 scenes. I've done this already and found that sections would sometimes not animate. It's like I can't win, and wouldn't it be great if I had to make a change to the model...I could go through the fun of splitting it up all over again 😞

    Computer Hardware / Software:

    The computer spec:

    i5 2500k, 8GB RAM, 256GB Intel SSD, etc.

    Software:

    Sketchup 2013, General software installed, but also AutoCAD, CS3, etc. It's a very reliable machine, no recent conflicts, all drivers and software is up to date.

    I have deactivated old Ruby's in case they were causing a problem.

    Really appreciate any responses.

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      Dave R
      last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 10:06

      What version of Windows?

      I think you've already hit on the problem. It's not just that Windows Movie Maker won't open large files, the operating system won't let you make files larger than 2Gb. Can you find a Win 7 machine to export the animation with?

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        bikerchris
        last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 10:15

        Thanks for chipping in Dave, much appreciated. I'm currently running Windows 7 64-bit (sorry, didn't mention that).

        It's strange because I have a friend who creates AVI's using After Effects, and he's had video sizes exceeding 6GB with no problem - moreover he can import them with ease into windows movie maker 😞

        I'm currently splitting up the model into scenes, ensuring they final AVI output does not exceed 2GB. If someone asked me to make a revision to the model right now, I would be very annoyed!

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          Dave R
          last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 10:24

          Maybe you need a different editor then. Movie Maker is old. 2Gb was the file size limit older versions of Windows had. I used Movie Maker on my old machine to work with video files but when I moved to the Win7 machine, I bought Camtasia for screen capture and it has a much nicer editor.

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            bikerchris
            last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 10:31

            Thanks for that Dave, I'll check Camtasia out. It is frustrating that my colleague with virtually the same spec machine as me, can import 6GB AVI files into Movie Maker.

            I'm surprised if I'm the only one that finds this a bit annoying - having spent quite a while making a nice scene based animation in Sketchup, I'm unable to show anyone unless they also have sketchup 😞

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              Dave R
              last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 10:34

              Maybe he has a newer version of Movie Maker? I don't know what would be the cause of the difference otherwise.

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                bikerchris
                last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 10:41

                I'm going to ring him now to find out any spec differences. He's a friend though and when I built mine, he pretty much copied my rig!

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                • B Offline
                  bikerchris
                  last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 10:46

                  He didn't respond.

                  Incidentally, I've now found that Windows Movie Maker has a Sketchup AVI specific limit of 1GB 😞

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                    Dave R
                    last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 10:50

                    Hmmmm...

                    Get Camtasia.

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                      bikerchris
                      last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 11:19

                      May have no choice - do you have the Β£220 studio version?

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                        Dave R
                        last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 11:24

                        I have Camatasia Studio version 8. I didn't want to spend the money but it was well worth it in the end. The quality of the videos and the ability to do some nice editing stuff made a big difference for me.

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                          bikerchris
                          last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 16:45

                          Thanks Dave, much appreciated. I've deduced that I have a problem with the sketchup install. I don't know whether a plugin is effecting it, but it's making any AVI output files that exceed 1GB, completely unusable. Also, if I try to make just one AVI output file of all the scenes, sketchup appears to be creating the slides, and then gets to the end and produces NO FILE. I have even found that if I cancel the process part way through, the file DOES appear.

                          I'm quite annoyed to put it mildly.

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                            Dave R
                            last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 17:32

                            Did you try disabling plugins to make sure it isn't a problem caused by one of them? If that doesn't change anything, try reinstalling SketchUp from a fresh download.

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                              bikerchris
                              last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 17:36

                              I have disabled all plugins apart from Twilight. Next up seems to be to re-install 😞

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                                Dave R
                                last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 17:44

                                Do you need Twilight running?

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                                  bikerchris
                                  last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 18:41

                                  Hi all,

                                  Quick and easy question, what experiences have you had with AVI file sizes and what's the biggest you've been able to create.

                                  Also, have you ever had the slide creation process occur without issue, only to find that at the end of it, you are not provided with an AVI file OR error messages?

                                  Thanks!

                                  Chris

                                  http://www.bikerchris.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-no-animation-file/screenshot-2014-02-06-18-29-07.png

                                  http://www.bikerchris.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-no-animation-file/screenshot-2014-02-06-18-31-55.png

                                  http://www.bikerchris.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-no-animation-file/screenshot-2014-02-06-18-39-31.png

                                  http://www.bikerchris.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-no-animation-file/screenshot-2014-02-06-18-40-18.png

                                  http://www.bikerchris.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-no-animation-file/screenshot-2014-02-06-18-40-53.png

                                  http://www.bikerchris.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-no-animation-file/screenshot-2014-02-06-18-41-02.png

                                  http://www.bikerchris.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-no-animation-file/screenshot-2014-02-06-18-41-21.png

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                                  • B Offline
                                    bikerchris
                                    last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 18:50

                                    I disabled it, restarted sketchup, same result 😞

                                    http://www.bikerchris.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-no-animation-file/screenshot-2014-02-06-18-29-07.png

                                    http://www.bikerchris.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-no-animation-file/screenshot-2014-02-06-18-31-55.png

                                    http://www.bikerchris.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-no-animation-file/screenshot-2014-02-06-18-39-31.png

                                    http://www.bikerchris.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-no-animation-file/screenshot-2014-02-06-18-40-18.png

                                    http://www.bikerchris.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-no-animation-file/screenshot-2014-02-06-18-40-53.png

                                    http://www.bikerchris.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-no-animation-file/screenshot-2014-02-06-18-41-02.png

                                    http://www.bikerchris.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-no-animation-file/screenshot-2014-02-06-18-41-21.png

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                                      bikerchris
                                      last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 19:10

                                      I've also now restarted the PC and still the same thing occurs. πŸ˜•

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                                      • cottyC Offline
                                        cotty
                                        last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 19:14

                                        With Windows file system Fat32, the maximum file size for a single file is 4GB and your pictures show that you crossed this border...

                                        my SketchUp gallery

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                                        • cottyC Offline
                                          cotty
                                          last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 19:17

                                          Answer in your new topic ❓

                                          my SketchUp gallery

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