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    • inteloideI Offline
      inteloide
      last edited by

      Hello, there is a problem with special characters. I tried it and it failed, so it's sure.
      I will correct this and you will be able to try again to see it solve this issue.

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      • JQLJ Offline
        JQL
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        You're right!

        I took out all "àáéíóúâãõç" characters from component and group names and it's now showing what seems to be the full list of components and groups from my probmodel.

        It's really fast in doing that too, so this might also be an outliner replacer... and if it is... you've made me a very happy SU user!

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        • inteloideI Offline
          inteloide
          last edited by

          There are errors when:
          -component name include special characters
          -file path include special characters

          First one generate javascript issue => should be easy to repair
          Second one involve issue in ruby coding : harder to solve... But I found a solution on this forum : I will try to correct using it.

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          • inteloideI Offline
            inteloide
            last edited by

            Hello,

            Just update the new version that solve special characters issue (thanks to a TIG script).
            Other improvments :
            Added: Number of instances are written in italic blue to make it different from definition name
            Corrected : Bug when component or path have a special characters inside
            Corrected : Move Win32API in BGSketchup folder not to interfer with other plugins
            Corrected : Simplify reload definition script, avoid error when Group is selected
            Corrected : add to_java function to format string to reach javascript standard

            Please make trials in your models and tell me if it corrected issues you had.

            I'm glad to see people happy of this function. May some of you push "Donate" button when it will be published, a little contribution to allow me buying a 3D printer (my dream). 😉

            Also, if some improvment are missing from your point of view, please tell me.

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            • inteloideI Offline
              inteloide
              last edited by

              New version 1.6.0 :
              Added : Window can be resize
              Corrected : Avoid graphic issue when selecting different line in the list
              Optimized : Simplify CSS file (removed un-used data)
              Optimized : Buttons are now centered in window

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              • JQLJ Offline
                JQL
                last edited by

                Excellent update, I'm going to test it and I'll try to say something later!

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                • inteloideI Offline
                  inteloide
                  last edited by

                  @jql said:

                  Excellent update, I'm going to test it and I'll try to say something later!

                  Some bugs actually... Selected lines are not highlighted. Color bug in list. List size error when uploading the list.
                  I will correct this tonight.
                  I will add a function to manage levels of components in file name ex:"toto ind 2.skp", to upload only last level.

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                  • JQLJ Offline
                    JQL
                    last edited by

                    That level management is a very good idea for nested xrefs...

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                    • inteloideI Offline
                      inteloide
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                      @jql said:

                      That level management is a very good idea for nested xrefs...

                      Yes ! It would be very useful for me !! 😉
                      I already code the script to check if other files exist in a path with different level. (You will see, in version 1.7.0 in "options", that options are implemented but not active)

                      So the idea will be, when updating a component definition from a file, to check if other file exist with the same "base" but with different level. Ex :
                      "c:\toto\drawing.skp"
                      "c:\toto\drawing ind2.skp"
                      "c:\toto\drawing ind3.skp"

                      Then the plugins will update only the highest level : "c:\toto\drawing ind3.skp"
                      Therfore, you will be able to keep history of your component by saving it in a different level each time you modify it !

                      Of course the level idenitificator (" ind" here) will be changeable in options).
                      Also, this options can be activable or not in options too.

                      Just pending for me to implement the script at correct places and that's it !
                      I hope to complete this by Thursday (yes, tomorrow start the sales in France...and my TV is broken down...sniff 😞 )
                      So version 1.8.0 will have this useful function ! Just wait a bit...

                      New version update (1.7.0) , with following changes :
                      Added : New red color to distinguish file newer than definition with file older than definition
                      Added : New option to choose if the brightest red color means file newer or older than definition
                      Added : Add refresh time in window bottom when updating the list
                      Corrected : Number of component instances in a branch was wrong
                      Corrected : Restore highlightning of selected item (come back to previous script...)
                      Corrected : Number of instance in same style that item to avoid double item selection error
                      Corrected : Avoid to have unlinked components text in the same color than previous list item (CSS)
                      Corrected : Options were still saved in model (even if not used)

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                      • JQLJ Offline
                        JQL
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                        Oh I see now! What you mean by levels is revisions.

                        So if you save a lot of revisions or versions of the same component the latest version will be the one the plugin finds to reload. Though that is not what I thought it is, it is useful indeed!

                        Best regards,

                        JQL

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                        • G Offline
                          greatoe
                          last edited by

                          does this script work on mac version? thx

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                          • inteloideI Offline
                            inteloide
                            last edited by

                            @greatoe said:

                            does this script work on mac version? thx

                            Hello Greatoe,
                            not sure it work on Mac, as I don't have one, as system is different...Maybe the best is to try and tell me if it's works...
                            I will try later to understand how Mac file system works and update, if required.

                            JQL, what yours thoughts were exactly ? Maybe I can implement !

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                            • JQLJ Offline
                              JQL
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                              I thought you where refering to nesting levels inside Xrefed components.

                              Just to clarify, even if I'm sure you're familiar with the concept of Xref there might be someone else not familiar with it. A Xref is a .skp file that has been referenced as a component inside a model (TIG is also able to reference .dwg files with his Xref Manager plugin but that's not the scope of your plugin).

                              So imagine a model of an house that has 2 floors:

                              • The house might be a component that you can "save as" to a file, Xrefing it.
                              • But inside the house there might be many other components like the 2 floors, kitchen, bathrooms, closets, etc...
                              • All of those components might be Xrefed too so you get a lot of Xrefs with other xrefs inside. This can be called nested Xrefs
                              • With your plugin it's very easy to "reload" or "save as" multiple components at the same time;
                              • It's also easy to choose specific components to "reload" or "save as" and it tells wich ones need to be updated, wich is excellent;
                              • What I thought you were talking about was the ability to auto update only the components that were more deeply nested inside other components that needed an update, without having to update all components above.

                              Example:

                              • Inside house component there's 1st floor component;
                              • Inside 1st floor there's the kitchen component;
                              • Inside kitchen there's a counter with a sink component;
                              • All of this components are xrefed;
                              • You changed the sink component in the file and all of this nested Xrefs are outdated;
                              • If your plugin would be able to automatically detect that the sink component was the only component interfering with this "outdate" status, and would be able to update all only by reloading the sink component, this would be a wonderful time saver.

                              That was what I was thinking of, but it might be a bit complex.

                              Best regards and thanks again,

                              JQL

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                              • inteloideI Offline
                                inteloide
                                last edited by

                                Hello,

                                Thank you for explainations. (I'm not familiar with Xrefs)

                                Change wouldn't be so long, actually the plugins always upload file, even if the definition is update to date, so just by check before that file date = definition date, then issue is solved.

                                Also, I was thinking that plugin is also purging all definitions each time it upload a definition : this cost a lot of time too. I will also change this to purge only and updating end.

                                Also I will add these options :

                                • Avoid the window to open each time you open Sketchup (in case you don't want to use it)
                                • Add toolbar to quickly open/hide window
                                • To avoid list updating when model is openned, in order the model to load faster (in case of big file), may be just refresh component names, but not check files dates.

                                I'll try to implement this for version 1.8.0

                                Planned updates for version 2.0.0 (you can let me know you wishes) :

                                • Options in Html form (for better look)
                                • Add a model/component history text input, to allow writing your model improvments and components improvments.

                                The idea would be to have an host window which can accept different sub-windows from different plugins. Each plugin could be loaded separately but when you have installed the host window (host plugin), every other plugins (made by me, of course) will fit in the same window (you would be able to change from one to the other by clicking an icon). Then it keep clear your workspace !
                                So additionnal function like "model/component history" still stay in the same window.
                                Good idea, no ?

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                                • inteloideI Offline
                                  inteloide
                                  last edited by

                                  Hello,

                                  new TV bought ! ;o)

                                  Just update version 1.8.0, with following improvments :
                                  Added : Revision level management option added !
                                  Added : Option to start or not automatically the manager (default=no)
                                  Added : Option to refresh or not the list when start automatically the manager (default=yes)
                                  Optimized : The return of the update progress in Sketchup state bar !
                                  Optimized : In all definitions reload, component definition are reloaded, from file, only if different from model definition.
                                  Optimized : Simplify refreshing date display script

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                                  • G Offline
                                    greatoe
                                    last edited by

                                    @inteloide said:

                                    @greatoe said:

                                    does this script work on mac version? thx

                                    Hello Greatoe,
                                    not sure it work on Mac, as I don't have one, as system is different...Maybe the best is to try and tell me if it's works...
                                    I will try later to understand how Mac file system works and update, if required.

                                    JQL, what yours thoughts were exactly ? Maybe I can implement !

                                    Hi inteloide,

                                    No the script does not work on a Mac.

                                    After install, as an extension or unzip, no error message, but also no menu.

                                    Then after a restart of Sketchup, the following error window shows.

                                    screenshot.jpg

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                                    • JQLJ Offline
                                      JQL
                                      last edited by

                                      @inteloide said:

                                      Change wouldn't be so long, actually the plugins always upload file, even if the definition is update to date, so just by check before that file date = definition date, then issue is solved.

                                      I don't really understand what you mean by this...

                                      Also, when you refer to upload you mean saving to file (on sketchup it's called "save as" on the context menu) or getting the definition updated from file into model (wich is called "reload" in component context menu).

                                      In the previous context "upload" looks like "save as" but in this next context "upload" seems to be "reload".

                                      @inteloide said:

                                      Also, I was thinking that plugin is also purging all definitions each time it upload a definition : this cost a lot of time too. I will also change this to purge only and updating end.

                                      @inteloide said:

                                      • Add a model/component history text input, to allow writing your model improvments and components improvments.

                                      If it is very simple to add those notes and simple to read them, it could be useful.

                                      @inteloide said:

                                      The idea would be to have an host window which can accept different sub-windows from different plugins. Each plugin could be loaded separately but when you have installed the host window (host plugin), every other plugins (made by me, of course) will fit in the same window (you would be able to change from one to the other by clicking an icon). Then it keep clear your workspace !
                                      So additionnal function like "model/component history" still stay in the same window.
                                      Good idea, no ?

                                      Yes it's a good idea if all plugins share related objectives, otherwise, it might be confusing to have a window that has two completely different uses. It's not very Sketchup like.

                                      @inteloide said:

                                      Just update version 1.8.0, with following improvments :
                                      Added : Revision level management option added !
                                      Added : Option to start or not automatically the manager (default=no)
                                      Added : Option to refresh or not the list when start automatically the manager (default=yes)
                                      Optimized : The return of the update progress in Sketchup state bar !
                                      Optimized : In all definitions reload, component definition are reloaded, from file, only if different from model definition.
                                      Optimized : Simplify refreshing date display script

                                      I'll try to implement this for version 1.8.0

                                      Seems to be a nice update... Thanks!

                                      JQL

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                                      • JQLJ Offline
                                        JQL
                                        last edited by

                                        I have some little feature requests for you to consider:

                                        1 - Would it be possible to find a component in the list by clicking it in the model? Just like outliner...
                                        2 - Would it be possible to change component's names directly on the list?
                                        3 - Would it be hard to double click or click an icon on the list and the file/component that is selected would open in a new Sketchup session for editing and then reload when saved, like editing a texture in external image editor? (there's a plugin that does this already but breaks file path association. It's called Component Edit Window.)
                                        4 - Would it be possible to creat filters on the list that would only show updated components or outdated or components that were associated with a file or whatever other options you have. Tick on a box and you only see green icons, tick other box and you only see blue, click on both and you see both icons on the list.

                                        I hope you find this interesting, thanks and best regards,

                                        JQL

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                                        • inteloideI Offline
                                          inteloide
                                          last edited by

                                          @greatoe said:

                                          Then after a restart of Sketchup, the following error window shows.

                                          Hello Greatoe,

                                          Just post version 1.8.1 which should correct the message you had.
                                          After that...mistery... ;o)
                                          Please send me further errors (you can start ruby console in parrallel to see any error you may have).

                                          About version 1.8.1 version, few modifications actually :
                                          Corrected : Add option for MAC user, should help tp start the plugin, pay attention when saving files.
                                          Optimized : Simplify access to tool through Plugins menu

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                                          • inteloideI Offline
                                            inteloide
                                            last edited by

                                            JQL, first thank you for your ideas

                                            To answer you :
                                            1 - Yes, it's not easy to find in the list a definition name, but... I'll try
                                            2 - Yes, good simple idea ! I vote for ;o)
                                            3 - Good idea again, should not be so complex.
                                            4 - Humm...some programming hours below that...I'll try

                                            Also, more traduction could be add if users help me to translate (all texts are in Plugins\BGSketchup\Composants\Rb\Localization.rb)

                                            Inteloide

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