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      errror404
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      Hey guys, I have a house that we want to make it look like a 2 story house on the front and have a walk-out basement on the back (3 stories). Current site conditions are not as favorable: Only 3 feet difference between the front and the back.

      Anyway, the solution involves some retaining walls (see green lines - the numbers are elevations) and I'm not quite sure how to approach the site. I know there are some plugins out there for site grading but I haven't played with any of them besides sandbox.

      https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/101889400/2013-12-12 11.00.43.jpg

      Retaining walls shapes and even site grading can be imported from autoCAD

      thanks!

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        alpro
        last edited by

        Post the cad file if you can and I'll give it a go tomorrow.

        Mike

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          errror404
          last edited by

          @alpro said:

          Post the cad file if you can and I'll give it a go tomorrow.

          Mike

          Thanks for the offer Mike, I just sent you a PM

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            pbacot
            last edited by

            If you want to use plugins, Toposhaper (search here) may be a good start. Get the CAD of the contour lines and raise them up in the proper height intervals in SU.

            Nice to have a site that is only 3' difference. Often houses have to be designed as you note because of the slope being so steep. Have a site now that is difficult NOT to have 10' between floors.

            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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              errror404
              last edited by

              @pbacot said:

              If you want to use plugins, Toposhaper (search here) may be a good start. Get the CAD of the contour lines and raise them up in the proper height intervals in SU.

              Nice to have a site that is only 3' difference. Often houses have to be designed as you note because of the slope being so steep. Have a site now that is difficult NOT to have 10' between floors.

              That looks like pretty good plugin... especially how it cleans up the mesh. I had someone at the office do the contours in CAD and create a mesh... but for some reason when I import the .dwg or .dfx into sketchup all i get are lines no mesh

              No sure if I'm missing a setting in CAD to export the information or what


              Screenshot 2013-12-13 11.10.54.png

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                pbacot
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                just importing will not make mesh. If the CAD is in proper layers you may want to import all layers of pertinent building information. However if you have any problems with it you may wish to start with just the layers that give the basic shapes you need to start the contours and building-site outlines. Simplify and clean-up when you can before import.

                Get the countours on a separate layer. arrange per elevation and run toposhaper. Make sure the contours are continous (often broken i the CAD for text etc>) I often fix them up in CAD first to be continuous polylines.

                MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                  errror404
                  last edited by

                  @pbacot said:

                  just importing will not make mesh. If the CAD is in proper layers you may want to import all layers of pertinent building information. However if you have any problems with it you may wish to start with just the layers that give the basic shapes you need to start the contours and building-site outlines. Simplify and clean-up when you can before import.

                  Get the countours on a separate layer. arrange per elevation and run toposhaper. Make sure the contours are continous (often broken i the CAD for text etc>) I often fix them up in CAD first to be continuous polylines.

                  Got ya....
                  I think what I'm going to do is:
                  1- First, create a mesh of the existing terrain.
                  2- Then Create the cascading retaining walls and the fill them in
                  3- finally rework the grading on the side setbacks and splice them to the original terrain

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                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    Maybe architect tools by Thomthom give you some help with import cad files πŸ€“

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                      pbacot
                      last edited by

                      @errror404 said:

                      @pbacot said:

                      just importing will not make mesh. If the CAD is in proper layers you may want to import all layers of pertinent building information. However if you have any problems with it you may wish to start with just the layers that give the basic shapes you need to start the contours and building-site outlines. Simplify and clean-up when you can before import.

                      Get the countours on a separate layer. arrange per elevation and run toposhaper. Make sure the contours are continous (often broken i the CAD for text etc>) I often fix them up in CAD first to be continuous polylines.

                      Got ya....
                      I think what I'm going to do is:
                      1- First, create a mesh of the existing terrain.
                      2- Then Create the cascading retaining walls and the fill them in
                      3- finally rework the grading on the side setbacks and splice them to the original terrain

                      Preserve copies of the original terrain (in place on separate layer or in another drawing--if file is too large--but in same position) to paste in later if you need to repair or backtrack on your work. Also Before and after terrain models can be used in cut and fill (TIG has a plugin for that). Good luck.

                      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                        numerobis
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                        I would separate the terrain from the building (or copy it later) and then explode all blocks/components and move the whole geometry to layer0. (after all unnessessary layers (hatches, etc.) have been disabled. Otherwise you end up with thousands of layers from the DWG file.

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                          Miketag
                          last edited by

                          As an Civil engineer, I have started to use Sketchup as a CIM tool. We are using it to present conceptual designs, along with cost from the site takeoff. We are now using Sketchup for site construction sequencing. I just did a site take off on a conceptual design from a PDF sketch. If I can be of any help, Please feel free to contact me.

                          Mike

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