[Plugin] RichSection V0.5.8 UPDATED march 2015
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Thank you. I've just completed a more than usually complex drawing that required cross sections. I use RichSection to great effect. I really like all the additional optional colours, line types & infills.
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@emerald15 said:
Thank you. I've just completed a more than usually complex drawing that required cross sections. I use RichSection to great effect. I really like all the additional optional colours, line types & infills.
May we see the result
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@unknownuser said:
YES
the 2nd video is showing that
Use RichSection materials 'by layer' or 'by nature' or a combination.
Every RichSection can also have different section materials, by using a different 'prefix'
Hey there..
I've managed to figure out how to create different hatch patterns for objects on different layers, but I can't seem to create different hatch patterns for objects with different materials. It always goes back to the default pattern?
Also, I don't quite understand the options for the richsection material - what is the difference between "prefix+layername, prefix+materialname, default" and "prefix+materialname, prefix+layername, default"?
As I mentioned, I just can't seem to get material names to work in defining different hatch patterns...please help!
Thanks...
Joel -
I think it could make good effect more safely
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@ivreich said:
..... I don't quite understand the options for the richsection material - what is the difference between "prefix+layername, prefix+materialname, default" and "prefix+materialname, prefix+layername, default"?
...please help!Thanks...
JoelHi Joel
Supposing
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Model : you used layers L1 and L2
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Model : you applied the following materials to groups and components : N1 and N2
First possibility : -
Model : existing materials in library 'in model' : #L1.... / NOT existing materials : #L2
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RS-options : prefix = #
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RS-options : default material = #default
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RS-options : section material = prefix+layername, default
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RS section materials for a group or component in layer L1 : #L1
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RS section materials for a group or component in layer L2 : #default (because #L2 doesn't exist)
2nd possibility : -
Model : existing materials in library 'in model' : #N1.... / NOT existing materials : #N2
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RS-options : prefix = #
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RS-options : default material = #default
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RS-options : section material = prefix+materialname, default
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RS section materials for a group or component with material N1 assignd: #N1
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RS section materials for a group or component with material N2 assignd: #default (because #N2 doesn't exist)
Got it
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@ladcwei said:
I think it could make good effect more safely
It seems to be a very complex model
What kind of building is it ? With a giant bell at the center ?
Maybee the bell needs some thickness. You can do this with the Joint PushPull plugin from Fredo.Thanks for sharing your experiance.
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Cant get it to work like in the videos....it just works as sketchup native section cut, also sketchup crashed a few times (bugsplat)....but i love the intention. It would save me the time to go put in hatches in my layout documents
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Yes,it's a temple for new year,it attracts much people to ring the bell on the three floors,it is supposed to be a kind of memorial tower.
However,in some complex models,the plugin could give section lines but never fill the hole,I don't know is there some problem has not been solved? It seems to work right.
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@ladcwei said:
However,in some complex models,the plugin could give section lines but never fill the hole,I don't know is there some problem has not been solved? It seems to work right.
Missing faces also happens with
TIG's Section Cut Face. He has done a lot of checks on it but there can still be situations in a model where a face can be missing without reason. 
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@unknownuser said:
Cant get it to work like in the videos....it just works as sketchup native section cut, also sketchup crashed a few times (bugsplat)....but i love the intention. It would save me the time to go put in hatches in my layout documents
Hallo,
To know what is going on first exclude this :- ...as native Sketchup : Did you used groups or components ?
- Did you activate the plugin? (Menu Windows/preferences >> extensions). Is there RichSection-panel and a RichSection menu ?
- Open de Ruby console (open the 'Windows' menu, and then click 'Ruby Console'): do you have any errors here while placing RIchSection cuts?
- Bug Splat : What other plugins are installed? There can be incompatibility : see first post. Unactivate all other plugins, restart SU and test again the RichSection plugin. This should work !
I see you have SU 8 installed. I suggest to install SU2013 make (you can keep SU8). It faster and much more stable.
Then install (first and only) the RichSection plugin. It should work ! If it is the case, instal the other plugins, and test after each installation.Please tell me if you got it working
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@ladcwei said:
Yes,it's a temple for new year .....
However,in some complex models,the plugin could give section lines but never fill the hole,I don't know is there some problem has not been solved? It seems to work right.Nice to have some feedback. B
Beautifull and complex modelsRichSection and also TIG's plugin use a method of the Ruby Sketchup-API (entities.intersect_with).
Indeed ArCAD-UK This method handels the Intersection and automatically creates faces with speed. My experience is that the method can't handel very small faces Sometimes you can avoid this limit by scaling the model (x100 ... x1000). -
My missing faces were in repeated components and should have formed a 50 x 100mm face in a rectangular box, so size wasn't the issue. The final solution in that case was to delete the failing group and create a fresh box. TIG spent time updating his plug using some of my models but I can still get face errors with abutting groups for no obvious reason. If you and TIG are both seeing this then you may need to get Trimble to look at the API.
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@unknownuser said:
Hi Joel
Supposing
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Model : you used layers L1 and L2
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Model : you applied the following materials to groups and components : N1 and N2
First possibility : -
Model : existing materials in library 'in model' : #L1.... / NOT existing materials : #L2
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RS-options : prefix = #
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RS-options : default material = #default
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RS-options : section material = prefix+layername, default
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RS section materials for a group or component in layer L1 : #L1
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RS section materials for a group or component in layer L2 : #default (because #L2 doesn't exist)
2nd possibility : -
Model : existing materials in library 'in model' : #N1.... / NOT existing materials : #N2
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RS-options : prefix = #
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RS-options : default material = #default
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RS-options : section material = prefix+materialname, default
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RS section materials for a group or component with material N1 assignd: #N1
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RS section materials for a group or component with material N2 assignd: #default (because #N2 doesn't exist)
Got it
Thanks...I managed to get both material names and layer names working (apparently I can't use default material names straight from the SU library; I have to change them for them to work), but I still don't understand the difference between the two richsection options highlighted in the attached image:
Thanks!
Joel
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@ivreich said:
Thanks...I managed to get both material names and layer names working (apparently I can't use default material names straight from the SU library; I have to change them for them to work), but I still don't understand the difference between the two richsection options highlighted in the attached image:
Thanks!
JoelIt's a matter of priority
Supposing- Model : you used layers L1 and L2
- Model : you applied the following materials to groups and components : N1 and N2
- Model : Group1 in layer L1 and material N1 (assignd to the group)
- Model : Group2 in layer L2 and material N2 (assignd to the group)
First case :
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Model : existing materials in library 'in model' : #L1,#N1,#N2....
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Model : NOT existing materials in library 'in model' : #L2
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RS-options : prefix = #
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RS-options : default material = #default
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RS-options : section material = prefix+layername, prefix+materialname, default
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RS section materials group1 (L1,N1) : #L1 (priority for prefix+layername)
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RS section materials group2 (L2,N2) : #N2 (#L2 doen't exist)
2nd case : -
RS-options and model as before, except:
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RS-options : section material = prefix+materialname, prefix+layername, default
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RS section materials group1 (L1,N1) : #N1 (priority for prefix+materialname)
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RS section materials group2 (L2,N2) : #N2
Like for standard materials : nested groups can inherit the RichSection-material of a parent group
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@arcad-uk said:
My missing faces were in repeated components and should have formed a 50 x 100mm face in a rectangular box, so size wasn't the issue. The final solution in that case was to delete the failing group and create a fresh box. TIG spent time updating his plug using some of my models but I can still get face errors with abutting groups for no obvious reason. If you and TIG are both seeing this then you may need to get Trimble to look at the API.
My experience is that SU (and his ruby method 'intersect_with') can't create an intersection-face if:
- small faces; small is relative : it depends of the extends of the model
- to many entities (edges, faces) in the same context (context = in the same group or component)
- to many (complex) loops to create in the same context
ArCAD-UK, for the repeated 'small' components, does SU recognizes them as a solid? What are the dimensions of the model?
Maybee jou can send me the problematic skp-file (private if necessary, I will only use it for testing....) -
This is unbelivable! Thank you soo much pgarmyn for sharing this.
It is just what i have been searching for for years. Now sketchup could be finally used as a proper drawing tool, without worrying are cetions up to date, visible to other scenes etc.I downloaded it yesterday via sketchucation plugin manager and it says it's expired back in march 2014?.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35033714/expired.jpgI thought i should report this.
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@mladen90 said:
This is unbelivable! Thank you soo much pgarmyn for sharing this.
It is just what i have been searching for for years. Now sketchup could be finally used as a proper drawing tool, without worrying are cetions up to date, visible to other scenes etc.I downloaded it yesterday via sketchucation plugin manager and it says it's expired back in march 2014?.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35033714/expired.jpgI thought i should report this.
Thank you again pgarmyn!Yes, thanks for reporting this.
Indeed this (full) DEMO expires on 1 march 2014. I will replace it by a free (limited) and a FULL version. But strange that you have this message.
Are you living in the future Did you changed the date of your computer
Is the licence-file in de directory (plugin/PiGa_RichSection/RichSectionLicense.rb)Let me know....
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I haven't change my date on PC.
I have resources folder, RichSection.rbs and RichSectionLicence.rb in folder you mentioned.I have had experienced similar thing with RealSection, but that was common problem ( It truly had expired and nobody continued to work on it). I guess RichSection doesn't use any of RealSections libs? Could this be the problem?
Thanks for your quick reply.
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New video added to the first post... 
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@mladen90 said:
I haven't change my date on PC.
I have resources folder, RichSection.rbs and RichSectionLicence.rb in folder you mentioned.I have had experienced similar thing with RealSection, but that was common problem ( It truly had expired and nobody continued to work on it). I guess RichSection doesn't use any of RealSections libs? Could this be the problem?
Thanks for your quick reply.
Strange, you are the first having this problem after 380 downloads!
The RichSection plugin can't interfere with other plugins.
When did you got this message. Directly after putting the first RichSection? .... When updating?Can you switch 'on' logging in the menu (plugins/RichSection/settings) and open the ruby console.
What is printed in the Ruby console, when you place a RichSection...
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