sketchucation logo sketchucation
    • Login
    ℹ️ Licensed Extensions | FredoBatch, ElevationProfile, FredoSketch, LayOps, MatSim and Pic2Shape will require license from Sept 1st More Info

    Video Card Question

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved SketchUp Discussions
    sketchup
    48 Posts 8 Posters 1.2k Views 8 Watching
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • G Offline
      Glenn at home
      last edited by

      @numerobis said:

      I think the latest and fastest available AGP card is the Radeon HD 4670 from 2008
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_4000_Series

      It should be much faster than a 7800GS. Here is the comparison to the 7800GT (no GS in the Chart)
      http://www.tomshardware.de/charts/gaming-grafikkarten-charts-2009-3.-quartal-mainstream-quality-update-2/vergleichen,1572.html?prod%5B2905%5D=on&prod%5B2900%5D=on
      http://www.tomshardware.de/charts/gaming-grafikkarten-charts-2009-3.-quartal-mainstream-quality-update-2/Sum-of-FPS-Benchmarks-1680x1050,1572.html

      I don't know if you can find it as new card - the HD 4350 is still available http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161318

      But there are some listed on ebay.

      Ati and it's openGL driver issues are well documented on this site. I have an ati hd on my laptop and it can't touch my gf gt in my desktop in SU. It plays games well but not SU.
      Just my results.

      SketchUp Pro 2024/2025 Dell XPS 8950 i9-12900K 64GB Ram RTX 3080

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • Joe WoodJ Offline
        Joe Wood
        last edited by

        well, I ordered this one
        http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290961978234&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160

        can't wait to get it installed, as my SUp is pretty slow and cranky,

        now I need to google 'how to replace video card' πŸ™‚

        really appreciate the advice people, now I need to find a laptop that fits my needs ..

        Joe Wood
        woodsshop.com/

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • S Offline
          sonder
          last edited by

          After trying many video cards, I have to say the nvidia gtx series are by far the most problem free for SU. I currently run an evga gtx 4gb, and it is very quick. Spend the money, as it is probably the single most important component in a computer build dedicated for 3d design software. If you can afford it, get the Titan cards. I'll be doing that Next.

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • sketch3d.deS Offline
            sketch3d.de
            last edited by

            @joe wood said:

            'how to replace video card'

            uninstall the ATI driver (see above), replace card (do ground yourself before touching), install the latest AMD Catalyst driver (see above), done.

            Norbert

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • G Offline
              Glenn at home
              last edited by

              @sketch3d.de said:

              @joe wood said:

              'how to replace video card'

              uninstall the ATI driver (see above), replace card (do ground yourself before touching), install the latest AMD Catalyst driver (see above), done.

              Norbert

              +1, it really is that easy. Good luck Joe. I have one similar to that in my laptop and I am unimpressed but other factors may be involved.

              SketchUp Pro 2024/2025 Dell XPS 8950 i9-12900K 64GB Ram RTX 3080

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • N Offline
                numerobis
                last edited by

                ...just to be clear, i didn't mean you should get a HD4350 which is one of the weakest cards from this series - much slower than a 4670!
                http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-q3-mainstream-quality-update-2/compare,1572.html?prod%5B2905%5D=on&prod%5B2900%5D=on&prod%5B2911%5D=on
                I only wanted to show you that there are still cards available from this series.

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • Joe WoodJ Offline
                  Joe Wood
                  last edited by

                  OK I can return it, so I should order this one? the GeForce GTX 650?
                  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130827&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords--pla--Desktop+Graphics+Cards-_-N82E16814130827&gclid=CNWouufty7oCFQE6Qgod528Afg

                  I don't do much intensive modeling, and never do any rendering.

                  will I still need that extra power connector with this card? The white ones with a 4 pin connection.

                  Joe Wood
                  woodsshop.com/

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • soloS Offline
                    solo
                    last edited by

                    @joe wood said:

                    OK I can return it, so I should order this one? the GeForce GTX 650?
                    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130827&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords--pla--Desktop+Graphics+Cards-_-N82E16814130827&gclid=CNWouufty7oCFQE6Qgod528Afg

                    I don't do much intensive modeling, and never do any rendering.

                    will I still need that extra power connector with this card? The white ones with a 4 pin connection.

                    Definitely a better card and Nvidia πŸ‘

                    What is your current PSU?

                    http://www.solos-art.com

                    If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • Joe WoodJ Offline
                      Joe Wood
                      last edited by

                      I don't know Solo, I even had to google PSU :-)Can I look it up in my computer specs somewhere?

                      Joe Wood
                      woodsshop.com/

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • soloS Offline
                        solo
                        last edited by

                        @joe wood said:

                        I don't know Solo, I even had to google PSU πŸ˜„Can I look it up in my computer specs somewhere?

                        There should be a sticker on it, I do not know of anywhere one can check in windows however.

                        http://www.solos-art.com

                        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • Joe WoodJ Offline
                          Joe Wood
                          last edited by

                          yeah I can see a sticker up under the case but I can't read it unless I take it out.

                          Joe Wood
                          woodsshop.com/

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • Joe WoodJ Offline
                            Joe Wood
                            last edited by

                            no numer, I only want the card, sorry, I don't know anything about replacing video cards or what to buy. I'm feeling pretty ignorant now.

                            Solo, I've been googling what psu a dell dimension 4600 has, some are 250 watt and some 400 .. I downloaded the 4600 owners and service manuals, is it in there? Sorry I don't see it listed.

                            Joe Wood
                            woodsshop.com/

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • N Offline
                              numerobis
                              last edited by

                              The GTX650 not available as AGP card. The latest AGP cards are some Radeon HD4xxx and GeForce 7xxx. Or do you plan to buy a new board now?

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • C Offline
                                Charlie__V
                                last edited by

                                @joe wood said:

                                Can I look it up in my computer specs somewhere?

                                IF it is a Dell computer, (I think you mentioned it is).....find the "service tag #" on the exterior of the case.
                                It would be on a small decal about the size of a return address on a USPS envelope.

                                Then, simply go to the Dell site.....support....service tag#....enter sevice tag #....viola...all or most specs. should still be available specific to your build.

                                Charlie

                                Precision M1710/Win 7 Pro 64 bit/i-7 6920 Quad core 2.9 Ghz -3.8/16Gb ram/NVIDIA M5000M 8Gb

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                  Joe Wood
                                  last edited by

                                  OK, it has a 250 watt psu.

                                  Joe Wood
                                  woodsshop.com/

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • jiminy-billy-bobJ Offline
                                    jiminy-billy-bob
                                    last edited by

                                    "AGP" and "PCI Express" are the type of connectors. AGP is outdated since several years. A PCIe card would simply not fit into your computer.

                                    http://i.imgur.com/4Y7354q.jpg

                                    25% off Skatter for SketchUcation Premium Members

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • G Offline
                                      Glenn at home
                                      last edited by

                                      @joe wood said:

                                      OK, it has a 250 watt psu.

                                      Did you open the case and verify?

                                      SketchUp Pro 2024/2025 Dell XPS 8950 i9-12900K 64GB Ram RTX 3080

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                        Joe Wood
                                        last edited by

                                        no I haven't Glen, I'd need to remove it to see the sticker on the bottom. Too many connected wires has me intimidated!

                                        I did google some numbers on the side of the psu

                                        cn 0f0340-47890-353-2067

                                        and found this
                                        http://www.memory4less.com/m4l_itemdetail.aspx?itemid=1442482616&partno=0F0340&rid=88&gclid=CJWs-YDGzroCFUlyQgod8FQAIw

                                        Joe Wood
                                        woodsshop.com/

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                          Joe Wood
                                          last edited by

                                          I asked this video card question at the Dell forum, and someone suggested this

                                          "Money would be better spent finding a GX620 with Pentium D.

                                          The 4600 is DDR with AGP.

                                          The GX620 uses DDR2 and has PCI-E video and with Pentium D would be many times faster in all aspects and would have many video options that could be re used later in a newer better faster machine."

                                          301 Moved Permanently

                                          favicon

                                          (www.amazon.com)

                                          what am I looking at on that page? Isn't that tower the whole computer? For $83? That's right around what I was thinking of paying for the video card alone.

                                          Joe Wood
                                          woodsshop.com/

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • G Offline
                                            Glenn at home
                                            last edited by

                                            You know Joe, getting a newer, used PC is not a bad idea. Here is a local CL add in your area that has 2 of those for $90 each.

                                            craigslist | Page Not Found

                                            favicon

                                            (sandiego.craigslist.org)

                                            They are older but they do use PCIe video cards (the newer ones) and they are dual core, 64-bit cpus which will be far and away better than your P4 based system. I really would not spend any money on that old system. I had one just like it and while it was a good PC for the 6 years I had it just got to a point where it was not worth upgrading it.
                                            Search around a bit on CL and fins one local, this way you can maybe see it run and check it's condition before you buy.
                                            Good luck πŸ˜„

                                            SketchUp Pro 2024/2025 Dell XPS 8950 i9-12900K 64GB Ram RTX 3080

                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • 1
                                            • 2
                                            • 3
                                            • 1 / 3
                                            • First post
                                              Last post
                                            Buy SketchPlus
                                            Buy SUbD
                                            Buy WrapR
                                            Buy eBook
                                            Buy Modelur
                                            Buy Vertex Tools
                                            Buy SketchCuisine
                                            Buy FormFonts

                                            Advertisement