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    • jiminy-billy-bobJ Offline
      jiminy-billy-bob
      last edited by

      That card was released in 2005...

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      • Joe WoodJ Offline
        Joe Wood
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        Oh great, 2005 .. thank you office depot (where I got it repaired).

        Joe Wood
        woodsshop.com/

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        • sketch3d.deS Offline
          sketch3d.de
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          @joe wood said:

          ...or do I need to get a better card?

          yep: nVidia GeForce GTX series

          Norbert

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          • Joe WoodJ Offline
            Joe Wood
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            Thanks for that Norbert but after seeing those prices, no way I'll be putting that kind of money in to this old machine.

            hopefully I can get those greyed out boxes changed so I can tick 'use hardware acceleration', which is what I need? What else can I try?

            how about updating the driver, will that open up those greyed out boxes?

            Joe Wood
            woodsshop.com/

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            • sketch3d.deS Offline
              sketch3d.de
              last edited by

              @joe wood said:

              ...no way I'll be putting that kind of money in to this old machine.

              a nice GeForce GTX 650 is around 100 bucks...

              @joe wood said:

              how about updating the driver, will that open up those greyed out boxes?

              updating the driver is always the first thing to do if display issues arise, install with admin rights ("right click > run as admin") for doing this.

              hth,
              Norbert

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              • Joe WoodJ Offline
                Joe Wood
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                darn, I fill out those boxes http://support.amd.com/en-us/downloads
                then I click 'display results', and keep getting an error message saying

                'sorry, something went wrong' Content controls have to be top-level controls in a content page or a nested master page that references a master page

                I use win xp on a desktop, so the first box 'Select the type of system that you have'
                I select 'desktop graphics'?

                then the 'Product Family' I select Radeon 9xxx series
                then 'Select your Product' and I put Radeon 9200 Series

                then the OS I put XP 32 bit.

                I get the same mssg when I click 'auto detect and install'

                I tried F Fox and IE, sigh ..

                when I go to Device Manager I see the card, I R click it and see 'Update Driver',
                will that work?

                probably a stupid question but should I see two entries for the video card under Display Adapters?

                New1.jpg

                Joe Wood
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                • sketch3d.deS Offline
                  sketch3d.de
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                  @joe wood said:

                  darn, I fill out those boxes http://support.amd.com/en-us/downloads
                  then I click 'display results', and keep getting an error message saying...

                  "/download" not "/downloads"... seems that the new AMD website design screwed the download section...

                  the latest ATI Catalyst driver for your lame 9200SE under Win XP is probably version 6.1x which you may want download from alternate sources until the AMD downloads will work again.

                  @joe wood said:

                  probably a stupid question but should I see two entries for the video card under Display Adapters?

                  uninstall the Radeon Catalyst driver from the Windows control panel (-> software) and restart Windows, repeat this until no Radeon Catalyst driver is listed in the software control anymore.

                  Install the previously downloaded driver from above preferably with admin rights.

                  Good Luck,
                  Norbert

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                  • sketch3d.deS Offline
                    sketch3d.de
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                    @sketch3d.de said:

                    seems that the new AMD website design screwed the download section...

                    AMD download does work again.

                    Norbert

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                    • Joe WoodJ Offline
                      Joe Wood
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                      Thanks for the help Norbert, really appreciate the hand holding ๐Ÿ™‚

                      OK, I went and got that driver from the AMD site. I'm trying to figure out how to remove the older driver. I've been checking around and all the instructions say to use the ATI - Software Uninstall Utility, and if that isn't visible in Add Remove, to first remove ATI Catalyst Control Center then remove the ATI Display Drivers.

                      well, in my Add Remove I only see ATITool Overclocking Utility.
                      New-1.jpg

                      You know, I over stated my video card issues, it's not going in to wireframe when I orbit, but it is quite a bit slower. I could keep using it as is.

                      thanks again for taking the time helping me with this.

                      Joe Wood
                      woodsshop.com/

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                      • sketch3d.deS Offline
                        sketch3d.de
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                        @joe wood said:

                        ...all the instructions say to use the ATI - Software Uninstall Utility.

                        download and run the AMD Catalyst Un-install Utility w/ admin rights.

                        Norbert

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                        • Joe WoodJ Offline
                          Joe Wood
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                          I'm getting some advice and help at the AMD website, everyone there is also saying my v card is crap, looks like I'll be getting another. I'm getting screen flickering outside of SUp also.

                          really appreciate the help and great advice ๐Ÿ™‚

                          Joe Wood
                          woodsshop.com/

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                          • N Offline
                            numerobis
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                            @joe wood said:

                            my v card is crap, looks like I'll be getting another.

                            sad, but true ๐Ÿ˜‰
                            It's already quite old - a 10 years old card is like hardware from another century ๐Ÿ˜ฎ - and the "SE" at this time didn't stand for "Special Edition"... it was more like "Slow Edition".

                            I would say ANY graphics card you can buy today will be much faster - even one for $25.
                            It's really not worth to invest any more time into solving these issues.

                            The only problem with a new card could be that it looks like you need an AGP card... not many cards available and the latest series that support AGP are also from 2004-2005 i think. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                            • jiminy-billy-bobJ Offline
                              jiminy-billy-bob
                              last edited by

                              Yeah, that card was outdated the day it came out. The "200" stands for the lower end of the 9xxx series... And it was 8 years ago.

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                              • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                Joe Wood
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                                OK folks, could someone recommend a card for me? Probably doesn't need to be too fancy as this present card is working fairly well and I'm still able to use SUp.

                                I've had this Win XP computer for a long time now, ever since SUp Ver 3 (12 years?) and it was a reconditioned one from the Dell website. Had the HD replaced a few years ago.

                                recently had some BSOD issues, got help at the MS community forums, where I got some great help, mainly flashing my BIOS if that matters at all.

                                "Joe, for example, A12 addresses the issue I highlighted in your previous post above. I normally shy away from suggesting anything to do with the flashing of bios, but I noticed you are still at A07 and there have been 5 revisions since all with various fixes and enhancements. http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/Product/dimension-4600

                                don't want to spend too much as I might be finally getting a laptop soon.

                                Joe Wood
                                woodsshop.com/

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                                • G Offline
                                  Glenn at home
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                                  OK Joe the best you can do with an AGP based system is an nVidia GF7800GS. You might have to buy used as they are no longer made.

                                  craigslist | Page Not Found

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                                  (sandiego.craigslist.org)

                                  Just make sure you system can use the card. It needs a full size case, a 400w power supply and a spare power connector (the white ones with a 4 pin connection).

                                  Pretty soon you will need to get a new PC ๐Ÿ˜ž
                                  Good luck.

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                                  • jiminy-billy-bobJ Offline
                                    jiminy-billy-bob
                                    last edited by

                                    A list of some AGP cards.

                                    http://i.imgur.com/M1XzNEk.gif

                                    (Higher is better)

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                                    • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                      Joe Wood
                                      last edited by

                                      Ya soon need a new pc but first I need to get a laptop.

                                      How do I tell if I have a full sized case?
                                      Same with the 400 amp power? I looked in C Panel > System but don't see any power Info.

                                      Glenn, how did you find that C List add? I went to the computer section, did a search for nVidia GF7800GS and nothing came up.

                                      Joe Wood
                                      woodsshop.com/

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                                      • jiminy-billy-bobJ Offline
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                                        last edited by

                                        @joe wood said:

                                        Glenn, how did you find that C List add? I went to the computer section, did a search for nVidia GF7800GS and nothing came up.

                                        http://sandiego.craigslist.org/search/sys/nsd?query=agp

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                                        • N Offline
                                          numerobis
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                                          I think the latest and fastest available AGP card is the Radeon HD 4670 from 2008
                                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_4000_Series

                                          It should be much faster than a 7800GS. Here is the comparison to the 7800GT (no GS in the Chart)
                                          http://www.tomshardware.de/charts/gaming-grafikkarten-charts-2009-3.-quartal-mainstream-quality-update-2/vergleichen,1572.html?prod%5B2905%5D=on&prod%5B2900%5D=on
                                          http://www.tomshardware.de/charts/gaming-grafikkarten-charts-2009-3.-quartal-mainstream-quality-update-2/Sum-of-FPS-Benchmarks-1680x1050,1572.html

                                          I don't know if you can find it as new card - the HD 4350 is still available http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161318

                                          But there are some listed on ebay.

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                                          • G Offline
                                            Glenn at home
                                            last edited by

                                            @joe wood said:

                                            Ya soon need a new pc but first I need to get a laptop.

                                            How do I tell if I have a full sized case?
                                            Same with the 400 amp power? I looked in C Panel > System but don't see any power Info.

                                            Glenn, how did you find that C List add? I went to the computer section, did a search for nVidia GF7800GS and nothing came up.

                                            Open up the case and look on the power supply and see what it says. As for the case unless it is real small it should be big enough. All I did was go to SD cl and search agp in the computer section and found it. You should see if you have a spare power connection as well.

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