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    Rolleiflex Automat [Model Progression Thread]

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    • soloS Offline
      solo
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      Keep it going all the way to final render.

      http://www.solos-art.com

      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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      • cottyC Offline
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        Do you use pictures or a real one as a reference?

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        • Bryan KB Offline
          Bryan K
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          @cotty said:

          Do you use pictures or a real one as a reference?

          Pictures. I can only wish I had engineering dimensions for this one. πŸ˜†

          I have the overall dimensions, but none of the details. Oh well. πŸ˜‰

          See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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          • Bryan KB Offline
            Bryan K
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            @solo said:

            Keep it going all the way to final render.

            Thanks solo. High praise from one of the masters.

            I am and will.

            I'm worried about some of the details the photo references aren't showing very well.

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            • Bryan KB Offline
              Bryan K
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              More fiddly bits added. Details begun. A few more brackets and attachments to go.


              Rollieflex Automat 9.jpg


              Rollieflex Automat 10.jpg

              See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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              • Bryan KB Offline
                Bryan K
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                Winding handle complete. Do not ask me about the winding handle. (2 hrs) 😑 πŸ˜†

                Finger knob not right sized. Will fix later.


                Rollieflex Automat 11.jpg


                Rollieflex Automat 12.jpg

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                • Bryan KB Offline
                  Bryan K
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                  OK. Couldn't let the handle go for the night.

                  Fixed.


                  Rollieflex Automat 13.jpg

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                  • Bryan KB Offline
                    Bryan K
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                    Winder side complete.
                    Rollieflex Automat 14.jpg

                    Beginning detail of knob controls.

                    Rollieflex Automat 15.jpg

                    See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                    • tademaT Offline
                      tadema
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                      Looking great Bryan πŸ‘ . not sure if you've seen these http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Rolleiflex+Automat

                      John

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                      • cottyC Offline
                        cotty
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                        @tadema said:

                        Looking great Bryan πŸ‘ . not sure if you've seen these http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Rolleiflex+Automat

                        John

                        TIP: If I want to look at flickr pictures, I usually use http://flickriver.com/ for this...

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                        • Bryan KB Offline
                          Bryan K
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                          @tadema said:

                          Looking great Bryan πŸ‘ . not sure if you've seen these http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Rolleiflex+Automat

                          John

                          Good find John. That will help a lot. Thanks and thanks.

                          See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                          • Bryan KB Offline
                            Bryan K
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                            Focus knob almost complete.

                            But I have a problem. I need to put numbers on the angled dial face, between the finger grips and the focal length indicator (the 16,8,3.5) but it is conical. (see second picture).

                            I can't get regular SU letters to conform no matter what I try as the numbers are so big they cross over 3 faces of the cone due the angle required. (see close-ups from John's links)

                            Any suggestions?


                            Rollieflex Automat 16.jpg


                            Rollieflex Automat 17.jpg


                            focus knob.JPG

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                            • soloS Offline
                              solo
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                              Why not create in in PS and put it on as an image and not geometry?

                              I see you never modeled anything behind lenses, still getting to it?

                              http://www.solos-art.com

                              If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                              • Bryan KB Offline
                                Bryan K
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                                @solo said:

                                Why not create in in PS and put it on as an image and not geometry?

                                I see you never modeled anything behind lenses, still getting to it?

                                I did think about that, but will that work across 3 angled faces or is that irrelevant? Here's a ref pic. And what would be the best way to layout the graphics and what final file should I create? Jpeg?

                                Honestly, I've only tried a custom image once and it didn't run out very good, so I really don't know the best way to go about that.

                                Rollieflex Automat 18.jpg

                                Yeah, the lenses are not finished. I'm completing the sides and then I will do the lenses last. There is still more detail to be added on the lenses, most of it, again, lettering.

                                See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                                • BoxB Offline
                                  Box
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                                  Using 3d lettering can't you intersect the letters with the facets and remove the excess.

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                                  • Bryan KB Offline
                                    Bryan K
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                                    @box said:

                                    Using 3d lettering can't you intersect the letters with the facets and remove the excess.

                                    I did try that, but I'm having trouble with all kinds of things with this model. I think the file is slightly corrupted. In this case, I could not get the letters to rotate properly. It did once, and then would not do it again.

                                    But mostly, it's a very odd 3 point rotation and would have to be done for something like 12 numbers. In other words, it would take days, if I can it to work again.

                                    Also, the number size spreads across 3 faces.

                                    See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                                    • BoxB Offline
                                      Box
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                                      But if you insert the number at the edge of one of the faces it will glue to that face, you should then be able to rotate it once into position, unglue it and scale it through the three faces, then select the three faces and intersect with model, remove the number and you should have the number cut into the surface.

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                                      • Bryan KB Offline
                                        Bryan K
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                                        @box said:

                                        But if you insert the number at the edge of one of the faces it will glue to that face, you should then be able to rotate it once into position, unglue it and scale it through the three faces, then select the three faces and intersect with model, remove the number and you should have the number cut into the surface.

                                        Exactly. And that's what I tried to do the first time and for some reason, it worked once and then didn't work again.

                                        Like I said, the file or program has some weird issues. It's the same with other very large polygon models I've done. Things just seem to stop working.

                                        I even made the focus knob a separate file and worked on it there, but it still had problems.

                                        I may try it again and see what happens, but the number will have to be rotated on three axis, for each number because it's a cone.

                                        I would rather have them etched into the face as in real life, they are stamped.

                                        See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                                        • BoxB Offline
                                          Box
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                                          I don't understand the 3 axis rotate.

                                          When you "place" the text it should glue to the face of one of your facets so the only rotation you need would be roughly 90deg to have it reading the right way.

                                          And doing it this way allows you to use joint push pull to stamp them or raise them.


                                          stamp.jpg

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                                          • Bryan KB Offline
                                            Bryan K
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                                            @box said:

                                            I don't understand the 3 axis rotate.

                                            When you "place" the text it should glue to the face of one of your facets so the only rotation you need would be roughly 90deg to have it reading the right way.

                                            And doing it this way allows you to use joint push pull to stamp them or raise them.

                                            This is exactly what I'm trying to do. Hmm, yet mine won't do this.

                                            Cool. Thanks for the help, box. Like I said, I'll try this again.

                                            Not sure why it isn't working.

                                            Again thanks.

                                            See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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